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Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:56 am
by ~Phoenix~
chargin wrote:But i don't think the older players deserve more APP then me for their earlier ascensions because they have planets!
Thats the most selfish thing I ever heard. planets are useless when people earn 3 or 4mil more a day then you! And no, its not possible to increase planets a day by 3 or 4mil because they also got higher incomes then u thanks to production.
Oh and btw I dont get anywhere near 400bil/turn. Would I if my idea went into play? nowhere near
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:57 am
by ~Phoenix~
~Phoenix~ wrote:Couzens wrote:Nox wrote:Pef wrote:i think the APP bonus should be based to the relative power of the last ascension vs the time frame , meaning if i ascended last time 2 years ago
with 5k UP , thats worth at minimum what a nowadays ascension with 100k UP is.
As this is now , the fact i ascended with 5k UP and lvl 23 covert 2 years ago(which counts as a 100k UP and lvl 29 covert now) , means i get a very small bonus , while players who ascended a month ago get 50 times more.
this would be great
i vote u do something like pef is suggesting
agreed do something like this or keep it as it is now
So according to my math, how about this:
1month ago - 5% more
2month ago - 12% more
3month ago - 21% more
4month ago - 33% more
5month ago - 48% more = 1.5x
6month ago - 65% more
7month ago - 84% more
8month ago - 105% more - 2x
9month ago - 128% more
10month ago - 153% more
11month ago - 180% more
12month ago - 209% more - 3x
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18month ago - 425% more - 5x
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24month ago - 713% more - 8x
So ascending 8months ago would give you roughly 2times more, 12months ago would give you roughly 3times your APP up to the limit of 5mil APP, 18months would give you 5x teh APP and 2years ago would give you 8x the APP. If they did crap ascensions that long ago, they still aint guna get a lot for it. This is mainly intended for those guys who did try big ascensions in the past but didnt get all the APP from it. It also kinda accounts for actual playing of the game by offputting the variables on it a slight bit.
See what you think admin, math can be easily chanegd though.
bump.. since most ppl dont read whole topic..
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:03 am
by Funky White Boy
Funky White Boy wrote:With my idea of an exponential increase in the APP an account which last ascended 24 months ago would get a multiplier of 11.56 (1+2.4)*(1+2.4) to their last ascension so an ascension of 100k would be worth 1.15 Million.
If it is thought that this is too low then 39.04 times (1+2.4)*(1+2.4)*(1+2.4)would give 3.9 Million.
Would that be a more acceptable solution. At the end of the day it would still take years for me at a rate close to 2 million planets to get anywhere near the top ranks.
How about this multiplier solution
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:13 am
by ~Phoenix~
Thats the kind of thing I was working towrds, however I was doing it at 1am so didnt get a huge amount of time to look for other scenarios, yours seems a lot more fair.
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:19 am
by Chris M
Like someone already stated, sooner this is decided and implemented the better...
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:33 am
by Lord Apollo
800,086 Ascension Points Available. Will return 963,836,935 Ascended Life Force
dont know whats happened here
i have 297k from my last ascention, and 86 had built up
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:34 am
by TheRook
admin appears to have graced people with it
ty admin
TheRook
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:07 am
by ~Phoenix~
admin WTH is wrong with you, are you biased against the bigger people or something? thanks for giving THE WHOLE GAME 800K APP, not enough tog et us back to where we were, but enough to **Filtered** it up for uss even more by giving all the newbs tons of lifeforce for FREE.
Serious,y why cant you just listen to some of the ppl in this thread supporting the ideas?
oh and ONTOP of that, now every noob that ascends is screwed because they WONT get 800k app for free
also you didnt do what u said u would u didnt raise the cap u just gave evry1 800k
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:20 am
by Mato
lmao I haven't recieved any APP for free(except that 350k from my last ascension)
only this:
43 Ascension Points Available. Will return 51,802 Ascended Life Force
PS: its wrong that everyone gets 800k APP unless everyone who ascendeds for the fisrt time gets it.
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:27 am
by TheRook
I think it was bumping those up who got very low app bonus from the updates
I'll still be ascending again tho...
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:28 am
by ~Phoenix~
People who got low APP fit in 2 categories, those who ascended long ago, and those that are either small/cba. The latter jsut got a huge boost, the former are just as screwed as before. Its actually been done the exact opposite of the way that has been put forward to find general approval in this very thread..
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:32 am
by Lord Apollo
~Phoenix~ wrote:People who got low APP fit in 2 categories, those who ascended long ago, and those that are either small/cba. The latter jsut got a huge boost, the former are just as screwed as before. Its actually been done the exact opposite of the way that has been put forward to find general approval in this very thread..
there probably really wasnt another way around this. besides, if its true that only people who got a small amount of APP from last ascension, got this bonus then they are likely to be unable to use it to catch up to the big guys anyway due to either 1) having a totally crap account to begin with or 2)not playing the server at all.
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:34 am
by ~Phoenix~
Lord Apollo wrote:there probably really wasnt another way around this
yes there was, its at the very top of this page.
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:35 am
by Mato
Free APP is a bad idea!!!
Re: minimum APP per account with new balance
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:50 am
by Lord Apollo
~Phoenix~ wrote:Lord Apollo wrote:there probably really wasnt another way around this
yes there was, its at the very top of this page.
ok pheonix, i read that but perhaps it was unfeasable for admin to actually code it or to use a formula as to when people actually last ascended etc
I also agree with mato that giving free APP isnt the best solution