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Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:02 pm
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
the drop to there level(rank, stats and everything)...become a anti sniper....

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:24 pm
by Gandalf the White
agreed with Mordack. Someone hit me yesterday and i have nothing to hit back at because their account is made up of strike weapons. And i am not about to waste my spies on pitifully cheap weapons.

They keep their account dormant for a week to build up 150 million undeveloped planets (which of course can't be raided) to train them for a mad bout of farming, in the full knowledge that someone will come and wipe the floor with them afterwards.

The circle of life then continues in precisely the same way next week. Except their levels are +75-100 higher, making things a lot worse, alarmingly quickly and making it even more impossible to descend them.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:37 pm
by vinny d
Yes but if you waste your spies to sab their weapons how are they going to get DMU to farm again?

I however have no idea how sniper accounts do there dirty work. They seem like people waging guerrilla warfare. Which is a smart tactic although it is looked down upon.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:38 pm
by ~Phoenix~
[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:the drop to there level(rank, stats and everything)...become a anti sniper....


Its impossible, see you have no idea what you're on about, rank is based on army size completely, there is NO way to drop except by destroying your own planets!


Ill put it simply for u, they build up like 500mil planets, put em all into strike, farm the first page, spend the DMU on just making more planets, get completly wiped out by the next turn and then with high planet production just do it all over again.


While we are all stuck at a stupid cap suffering from no UP!


Sabbing their weps is pointless it does nothing weps are so cheap, they are same price as main weps except people on this make trillions per turn, its nothing for weps.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:52 pm
by vinny d
So i take it they are storing their dmu in upgrades and in LF. To buy so many weapons they need to put in somewhere. Since the first page makes trillions per turn they would be able to sell the lf they bought with dmu and be able to do all over again while still making a profit.

crafty you must admit.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:44 pm
by ~Phoenix~
Indeed.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:19 pm
by Lore
[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:my god its u ppl that make them get these stats in the first place, u guys had it coming.

all u ppl that live in ur page1 paradise and leaving what 300trills-1quad out in the open becuase u expect ur neighbor not to hit u, like COME ON ppl

hell man! 300-1quad or even higher who wouldn't grab that, the reward for farming ur assess speak for themselves.

hahahahahahahaha


u know whats even funnier now its u guys complaining give it a year maybe forum will finally listen to u....lol



You honestly don't have any idea do you? I was hit for 31 trill naq. That is a rather small amount of DMU. I had a top 25 defense at the time.

I have spent every ounce of my income in defense and defense enhancements. I cant even come close to maintaining his growth. The insanely high rank mod he is pulling due to the fact he kills his own planets on pourpose so he can keep those high rank mods, makes it impossible for me to compensate.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:51 pm
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
well no shi t i have no idea, then sink to there level drop lower than he is and use the rank mod on his ass

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:16 pm
by Gandalf the White
YOU CANT DO THAT SGC!!!!

You can't destroy your own account just so you won't be farmed. That makes no friggin sense at all.

You can't destroy your own account because when you get down to their level, they have nothing to destroy anyway.

You and a group of 50 others can sit on them trying to descend them round the clock for a month and you will go backwards.....you end up harming yourself through all of the lost resources.

Weapons are too cheap. Make them 10 times or even 100 times more expensive. If you want to build a 1 quadrillion strike you should have to earn it, not farm it in 2 or 3 hits. And if you can build a 1 quadrillion strike there is absolutely no need for the game to give you a 30% bonus for your effort. As the title says "It's crap, fix it!"

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:24 am
by Mojo Rising
[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:well no shi t i have no idea, then sink to there level drop lower than he is and use the rank mod on his ass


SGC,

I am not trying to be insulting but is English your second language? I am going to put this as simply as I can and please tell me if you don't understand what I am saying:

In ascension, rank = size. The more planets you have, the higher your rank. And since you only need to be about 50 ranks below someone to get a 130% rank mod, it would require the first page accounts to lose in excess of 1.5 - 2 billion planets in order to drop to the levels of these "sniper" accounts and not have an insane rank mod to deal with, which is impossible to do.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:28 am
by *~Starry~*
you guys realize the more you destroy military on them, the higher the rank mods get?


why don't you just let them farm you for a while... let them rise in rank....

Then just descend them then?


from what I can see from the destroy military thingy... you can lose up to 100mil planets per 10 attacks... aka... they drop about 100 ranks each time somebody attacks...

why not just leave them alone and let them keep those 100 planets and let them grow? Then you guys have a easier time descending them?

It's give and take :P



on a side note? What defends you from destroy military? Assasin or Covert>

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:58 pm
by Finarfin
Thanks to the rank mod, I today lost a bit under a third of my income. Farmed around an hour before I woke up. Without the rank mod, my defense would have kept them out.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by Ishtar66
i been hit by snipers a few times. im not complaining to much. i just keep raising my defense & keep increasing my Assassin Power. every time anyone hits me they loose 10 times the amount of what i loose.

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:36 pm
by Lore
starry~* wrote:you guys realize the more you destroy military on them, the higher the rank mods get?


why don't you just let them farm you for a while... let them rise in rank....

Then just descend them then?


from what I can see from the destroy military thingy... you can lose up to 100mil planets per 10 attacks... aka... they drop about 100 ranks each time somebody attacks...

why not just leave them alone and let them keep those 100 planets and let them grow? Then you guys have a easier time descending them?

It's give and take :P



on a side note? What defends you from destroy military? Assasin or Covert>



Starry you do realize that it is 100% impossible to deascend a active account right?

Re: Its crap, fix it

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:18 pm
by Abhi
i too hate the fact that now u barely can deascend an active player. i remember the days when i barely, BARELY managed to escape the wrath of some of the huge members of TO (i think). i had to scrounge everywhere
but now, its just so easy to keep rebuying ur lf. i mean, if u want to play it like that. make turns come a bit more freely (or reduce the cost of all attacks in half. eg. asc strike for 50 ats. etc.) AND make it so someone can hit u w/ asc strike like 5-10 times max before u phase out for like an hr. now THAT wud make it a little more balanced.