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if it 100% negelates MS in Battle and raids....what does that mean to you...thats is makes them invisible.......and ppt and merlin have been apart of the game forever, not a new house that enough your fleets to be untouchable, but your right you guys need all the help you can get

So what your saying is admin is conspiring with us...
Your logic is flawless!

Colonel Jack Oneill wrote:if it 100% negelates MS in Battle and raids....what does that mean to you...thats is makes them invisible.......and ppt and merlin have been apart of the game forever, not a new house that enough your fleets to be untouchable, but your right you guys need all the help you can get

So you are saying that those in the no ms house should not be able to lose planets then? Because no MS at all either way, instead of what it actually says, in attack and raid. Merlins have not been around forever, and they really haven't been around that long compared to many other updates, yet they protect something (planets) while you still get full bonus from said items.

Admin clearly did not include fleet attacks for a reason, both allowing attacks into and out of said alliance. If someone masses down my planet, there is nothing I can do, just the same as if I mass someone else down, that is part of the house and not a bug.

I have a feeling if it were the opposite, then FUALL, who seem to have a desire to be up in EPA's business (last I checked this topic was Omega Allegiance vs EPA, not OA and friends), would just say deal with it and stop making up excuses why you can't be at our level. So that's what I say, stop making excuses because our house choice works better than yours and deal with it, instead of complaining about why you aren't getting your way and we are bug abusers. wah

I guess loosing Duals hurts

SHIZZZO wrote:I guess loosing Duals hurts

it hurt a long time ago XD i no longer feel its sting!

hows this going?

need i spy on OE to test my hypothesis?

MS house 100% neglects MS in in battle, i dont think the house was designed for you to beable to sit and arm 100k + fleets mass planets and never take any damage in return, sorta of make them invincible doesn't it.

You can keep your protected MS weapons/shields but fleets should still be fair game.

Exactly GC, Its time we rooted the exploiters out of that house.

simple take over the house and boot them and not sure what this is all about but cant someone just go build 500k fleets and mash bettys fleets ?

So how would that work? Would you just have fleets only engage in battle? Do you think admin could (or would) code it as such?

Or he could disable their ability to steal planets. "Doesn't enter in battle" (trying to steal a planet is a battle, isn't it? )

I think leaving fleets is fine but they should be able to be killed..its another sniper feature that needs done away with. Do away with anything that helps sloppy accounts.

GeneralChaos wrote:MS house 100% neglects MS in in battle, i dont think the house was designed for you to beable to sit and arm 100k + fleets mass planets and never take any damage in return, sorta of make them invincible doesn't it.

You can keep your protected MS weapons/shields but fleets should still be fair game.

What else would he have had in mind when he explicitly stated that ms couldn't function in attack and raid but still function in other actions (ie planet conquering)?

I have this vague recollection of a time playing this game where people didn't just shout "bug exploiter" or random insults whenever they were upset about things...maybe that's a distant memory or a made-up dream I had once about how the game should be.

Oh well. In the meantime, this discussion should be in the game suggestions section, not in a war thread none of us belong in.

GO EPA <- to stay on topic

Ok, I think that:
Some players, and because i don't want people to call me bias i'll use ETL as this example.

ETL uses cash and boots his account much more than i would get casually farming or even actively (say i'm a player that doesn't really spent time hard-core farming ) then gloats at me and says " lol n00b ur account iz bads mien is leetz0r", which is the truth. Would it be fair for me to scream "exploit, bug, not fair, bla bla bla"? No, since admin clearly made it possible for players to do that, implementing the cash system.

THE SAME WAY, admin makes a house that would make my UBER MS of say 300 odd bil be negated , so would ETL's 3T MS, which would make it an even stance i suppose. BUT WAIT! ETL still have cov level 38 and anti 37 or whatever and he'll just sab my def and kill my supers and claim obvious superiority.


PEOPLE PLEASE, don't make me scream bug exploit in so many other different directions just because it doesn't suit you and make you uber leet. I'm sure some people didn't like merlins at first, PPT or even MSs but as you can see, they still exist. So my advice is " STOP WHINING and adapt! "

Ashu wrote:Ok, I think that:
Some players, and because i don't want people to call me bias i'll use ETL as this example.

ETL uses cash and boots his account much more than i would get casually farming or even actively (say i'm a player that doesn't really spent time hard-core farming ) then gloats at me and says " lol n00b ur account iz bads mien is leetz0r", which is the truth. Would it be fair for me to scream "exploit, bug, not fair, bla bla bla"? No, since admin clearly made it possible for players to do that, implementing the cash system.

THE SAME WAY, admin makes a house that would make my UBER MS of say 300 odd bil be negated , so would ETL's 3T MS, which would make it an even stance i suppose. BUT WAIT! ETL still have cov level 38 and anti 37 or whatever and he'll just sab my def and kill my supers and claim obvious superiority.


PEOPLE PLEASE, don't make me scream bug exploit in so many other different directions just because it doesn't suit you and make you uber leet. I'm sure some people didn't like merlins at first, PPT or even MSs but as you can see, they still exist. So my advice is " STOP WHINING and adapt! "

so all in all, the admin made sure this sniper feature could be "used" i wont say exploited.

he made sure this sniper feature could be used during an update which the whole point was to reduce sniper effectiveness?

because your saying its a feature of the new update...
ok, ill give you that.

but the point of the update was to reduce sniper effectiveness.

sounds like it was a mistake that admin hadnt forseen. and thus EPA is using it till this mistake is fixed XD

because to suggest this is a normal function... would be a fools arguement xD

edit:
my EDITorial: that i said as unbiasedly as possible

i have 2 new sigs regarding EPA

I really don't see how this is a bug, exploit, or mistake.

So you want it so that we can't build up fleets and have them protected in the no ms battle house?

Fine, please do. If admin decides to make it so that we can't use fleets he'd also have to make it impossible for us to lose planets too, since we'd be unable to take them. I'd love infinite merlins. Great idea guys!

To change it so that Sobek is the only house that has a negative effect, i.e. making it impossible to take planets but possible to lose planets, would be the bigger mistake.