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Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:30 pm
by Stampeda
dazman wrote:Robe, may I ask why you continue this war?
Is it because you have gone so far that Surrendering will make you look weak?
What do you hope to accomplish in this war?
All this war has done is ruin great alliances. TLE was once a great empire, now they are few players left in it. TA, once great fighters, but now almost nothing left of them.
This war has made great players leave the game. It continues to.
Robe what do you hope to gain from this war?
If this war continues for another 5years, there will probably be an even more powerful empire around, and you are back to the beginning.
My point is You are boring the players of both sides of this. This isn't a great war anymore like it was a year ago.
This game is not meant to be played at war all the time. A month war is fine, even 3 months. But 1.5years of the same war. This is a game, not a real war lol. Why not set aside your differences and your hates towards players/alliances for the sake of your alliances. 90% of your side do not want this war. A great leader would see this and not let their own suffer through this any longer.
Just think about it. get this war over already.
I agree Daz , but theirs some isseu's with what you're saying...
Omega allaince exists in groups of fairly large people & skilled won't lie about that , bet u people can grow tall easly in peace "times"
but , if 1 player not in the "supreme empire" allainces hit one of you , upsie than the problems start player get sat on or whatever...
It's cus empires exist , quit boring actually having support of 300 man or more
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Anyway as in RP'ing , great sounds like a plan maybe wars will be taken less "Serieusly" geuss I'll be playing Darth Vader than u'll be Luke Skywalker ( Robe ) I already taken ur father Anakin Skywalker !!! muahaha
doesn't it sound silly ? lets face the fact RP'ing in every game dies eventually I seen it everywere some play for the game and not RP so why nailing those who don't not wish to RP to the ground ?
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:27 pm
by dazman
I don't mind if we find our selves back at war again in the future, but a constant war is boring
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:58 pm
by Robe
dazman wrote:...may I ask why you continue this war?
The Resistance vs Empires with Aggressive Polices War is new.
So I am assuming you are refering to the ongoing FUALL vs TF Conflict in which
the Leaders OE and DDE have said they are not interested in a ceasefire.
dazman wrote:I don't mind if we find our selves back at war again in the future, but a constant war is boring
The most attractive offer D2D received so far was a hug from Zeek but that did nothing for my male collegues
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:34 pm
by Noobert
Robe wrote:The most attractive offer D2D received so far was a hug from Zeek but that did nothing for my male collegues
That is because when you asked 1Horseman what your deal was after TA Massers surrender, he pretty much told you to **Filtered** off.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:35 am
by Xale
90% of our alliances dont want this war? I'm pretty sure I want it. Along with my whole alliance, or we wouldnt be in the HR.
Would have been nice if there was an alternative... but unfortunately because of the way FUA runs their diplomacy (look post above) there isnt any.
All these wars will continue untill you either change the way you treat other players both ingame and on these forums, or untill one of us is no longer able to press the attack button.
I'm in no hurry here.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:59 am
by Ĕɱƿŷ
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war. It makes getting stronger easier
Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:11 am
by Tekki
Xale - have you ever tried for an alternative or just believed what the rest of TTF have told you? I don't recall ever seeing
anyone on any of the respective HCs of Empires saying that you have tried for something different. If you think that someone from FUALL will come and offer you some treaty, think again but you may approach any of the diplomats if you chose to find out what alternatives you do have.
Noobert - TA Massers withdrew from war
Robe - while I may be incorrect, and while the two of us have had talks which were unofficial, I do not recall you ever offering or attempting to negotiate anything with FUALL since before GunZ left. You certainly indicated to me that the last thing you tried to negotiate was with GunZ and that was therefore quite a while back.
If someone does chose to try to talk just remember "everything is negotiable but some things are less negotiable than others."
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:49 am
by Robe
Noobert wrote:Robe wrote:The most attractive offer D2D received so far was a hug from Zeek but that did nothing for my male collegues
That is because when you asked 1Horseman what your deal was after TA Massers surrender, he pretty much told you to **Filtered** off.
1horseman asked me what I took to be an abstract question ages ago
"What it would take to end the war". I responded saying that if both sides wanted to
solve the conflict then respect would be a good starting point.
Tekki wrote:... I do not recall you ever offering or attempting to negotiate anything with FUALL since before GunZ left.
If someone does chose to try to talk just remember "everything is negotiable but some things are less negotiable than others."
You are correct Tekki I have not offered any specific suggestion, and nor would it be my place to do so. Both parties would need to appoint official representatives and commence official talks (FUALL HC and TF HC). Once that occured then suggestions could be discussed with members who would be asked to vote.
To date, FUALL have been offering Alliances in TF separate deals rather than approaching the TF HC as a group, which would probably be far more productive. All deals (except Qacol) involved a surrender and were rejected by members.
When GunZ approached me as Leader of D2D a long time, he was adament that OE would never consider a ceasefire. He offered D2D an "Honourable Surrender".
I told him I couldnt see an upside to that, and nor could our members.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:33 am
by caesar2
The Order and CoTO were few times offered "Hnorobale surendering", with interesting terms. Last one maybe 6 months ago. We were never interested to acept something like that. The only one person talking about diplomacy was GunZ. Few weeks ago one OE member contacted me and said he is my diplo conection for OE. But, i want to talk with leaders only.
As far as i know, TF was never ofered real diplomatic talk with FUALL. They always talked to separate alliances.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:45 am
by jedi~tank
Thats not true Caesar, I tried many times, its not our fault your HC isnt cohesive and can sit down on a schedule. And BTW, Diplomats represent leaders and speak for thier respective alliances or empires because they cannot all be on at the same time. Do not Diss diplomats.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:47 am
by jedi~tank
Furhtermore, Discussions are of interest otherwise a diplomat would not have been sent to you, so its your choice clearly wether or not to talk.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:51 am
by deni
C2 overestimates his own importance as usual
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:08 am
by caesar2
Deni, are you leader? Or JT?
Nvm, i was never interested to talk about diplomacy so, dont bother with me Deni
im just saying how it was last year. FUALL was talking with parts of TF, never with TF as one.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:23 am
by jedi~tank
caesar2 wrote:Deni, are you leader? Or JT?
Nvm, i was never interested to talk about diplomacy so, dont bother with me Deni
im just saying how it was last year. FUALL was talking with parts of TF, never with TF as one.
ummm as a matter of fact yes we are leaders LOL
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:27 am
by Stampeda
I'll tell you this Empires will ruin this game in long term simple of the boredom itself
Look the the Roman empire ( talking about historic now ) it went bye bye !
And whatever empires existed that time it all went to dingles
Rlly if you wan't to form a group with 300 , split it already and fight eachother and have a laugh about it ...
Or just gang up build till u roll over with recources and let the game die serieusly why even bothering topics like these that doesn't resolve anything
People are blind and don't look futher in the future instead their looking in their bags what they have.