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Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:21 am
by jedi~tank
Norbe wrote:Jedi~Tank wrote:Thats not true Caesar, I tried many times, its not our fault your HC isnt cohesive and can sit down on a schedule. And BTW, Diplomats represent leaders and speak for thier respective alliances or empires because they cannot all be on at the same time. Do not Diss diplomats.
Sorry JT, but in our discussions you keep telling me that there would be no deals for TF as a whole, only individual alliances.
~Norbe~
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Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:23 am
by jedi~tank
caesar2 wrote:dazman wrote:All this war has done is ruin great alliances. TLE was once a great empire, now they are few players left in it. TA, once great fighters, but now almost nothing left of them.
This war has made great players leave the game. It continues to.
This game is not meant to be played at war all the time. A month war is fine, even 3 months. But 1.5years of the same war. This is a game, not a real war lol. Why not set aside your differences and your hates towards players/alliances for the sake of your alliances. 90% of your side do not want this war. A great leader would see this and not let their own suffer through this any longer.
Just think about it. get this war over already.
Dazman, i remember Alpha HC member was talking with me before this war started and said, Alpha members and Alpha HC dont want war. I was negotiating a temporary NAP between Alpha nad CoTO with him, but,, than things started to wist and Delta started massing - war begun.
This Alpha HC member wich i mentioned was booted from HC, from allaince and he stoped playing the game for few months. He said he was booted cuse he didnt agree with the war how it was done.
Dazman, many players left, your right. But left on both sides. Many players quit the game, but on both sides. All you have in FUALL now is JT with traitor Qacoll running theyr DDE "mass for fun" policy and scaring players all around. OE has just few players like Tekki who will be pain in ass after thay fnish ascending. Many good fighters, YOU including, are almost inactive. I remember you were an amazing masser with fear. But what are you these days? A poster?
All question directed to Robe i undertand as an inuslt and rudenes. She is not the only one person in TTF and HR. She just took the role of forum representative, but all she wrote was, is and always will be supoprted by all TTF HC and HR members. All decision poted by TTF were voted by HC.
If you are saying that 90% of our ppl want to stop the war, well, they have doors opened. We are not taging our members as runners or deserters if they leave the war and sureder. It is FUALL who mostly threaten players to be sat if they leave, with few exceptions, but we can see what happened to GunZ, who was leading OE so long.
If you dont like the war send your diplomats with something serious, not with all the crap wich we saw in past. And send FUALL diplomats to disucs with TTF diplomats. Not OE diplomats, than DDE diplomats to allaince leaders. This war started like "FUALL vs Janus" so lets talk all discusions about the possible solutions between these two parts, nowdays "FUALL vs TTF (HR including)".
And i will repeat myslef, FUALL never sent FUALL diplomats. It was alwyas OE or DDE diplomat or an alliance leader of one of those empires talking to leader of TF allaince.
Lets be serious man, catch me on MSN, i will show you all diplomatic talks between OE with GunZ, wich all leaded to talking about Shakespers plays or RL, or with Deni on behalf of DDE but she is now blocked cuse im not willing to talk with DDE members, only with the only one leader of DDE, selfcalled supreme God REK. And if Deni thinks am to litle part of TF for discusion, i am sure there are few delegated players for whole TF who REK can contact, but he never asked for names.
Lets chose FUALL diplomats, not individual bugers who are just trying our MSN, if it works. If FUALl want to start diplomatic talks, i am sure TF HC will vote and nominat 2 or 3 person from TF to talk with FUALL diplo.
But dont bother us with "Tekki, Deni, JT, Zeekomkomer, and who knows who else can offer diploacy...". Because all the time they only say "I can talk only on behalf of OE/or DDE and i will discus it with HC. **Filtered**! Send ETL and REK and we will save 2 weeks time.
Thanks
OE diplomats and DDE diplomats are FUALL DIPLOMATS
WELL, AS SOMEONE ON YOU SIDE TOLD ME RECENTLY..ITS NO USE TRYING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH CEASAR BECAUSE CEASAR IS ONLY INTERESTED IN CEASAR.
HOW TRUE
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:29 am
by Lithium
wise words dazman, we all have lost feelings of massing
it has become a daily routine
both sides have bad blood and grudges against eachother
agree, to me means jsut 3 months peace and lets start it back, after all these massings it makes no difference now.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:02 pm
by RedKnight
yeah..no offence..but i do love how when caesar..who ok i know people complain about..has made a serious post about this...and all you can do is make stupid sarcastic and pointless comments....i appluad you
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:14 pm
by jedi~tank
I think you and everyone else that wants to butt in ought to know THE BACKGROUND before you do so.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:15 pm
by caesar2
DDE and OE diplomats acts like individuls, both sides on own.
@JT
if it was Qacol who told it than i dont care
hes more selfish than 99.99% of PPl i ever met. So the rest of DDE
Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:49 pm
by jedi~tank
well nobody can talk to c2 because all you do is bring up **Filtered** from a year ago..ok this is today and insulting is what you are best at so Im saying now from DDE that any talks, plans negotiations we have will do or not will be without C2.. OK you insulted Deni a few posts back and thats unacceptable. If you want to talk to a DDE leader..Rek, Deni, JT, D1 takle it or leave it. And BTW Curumo is our diplomat so you cannot discount him either..or any other DDE HC member for that matter.
Sorry bud, thats just the way its gonna roll
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:01 pm
by caesar2
I did insult Deni where?
And your right, i cant forget what happened before war. It learned me that you cant trust DDE representatives. DOT. try to change it, but you have just small % to change my mind.
Curumo, yes. i was talking with him maybe 16 months ago. i remember him. Not a bad guy. D1, well, can say the same.
And JT, am happy to be out of diplomatic taks, i never wanted be a part. You can ask ppl around, i hate diplomacy
so dont worry, i wont cry
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:04 pm
by jedi~tank
We have something we agree on, thats good, now we can move forward.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:16 pm
by Norbe
Jedi~Tank wrote:Norbe wrote:Jedi~Tank wrote:Thats not true Caesar, I tried many times, its not our fault your HC isnt cohesive and can sit down on a schedule. And BTW, Diplomats represent leaders and speak for thier respective alliances or empires because they cannot all be on at the same time. Do not Diss diplomats.
Sorry JT, but in our discussions you keep telling me that there would be no deals for TF as a whole, only individual alliances.
~Norbe~
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[spoiler]Thursday, 6 August, 2009
[19:30] ~Norbe~ THE IMMORTAL ANCIENT GOD: i have a question
[19:30] ~Norbe~ THE IMMORTAL ANCIENT GOD: will you be making similar offers to the other alliances, or just to TÅF?
[19:36] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: just TAF because TLE are the ones that kind of started it all
Sunday, 9 August, 2009
[02:55] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: TAF can surrender or say fuall won
[02:55] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: TLE must delete or disband[/spoiler]
After that point I told you that TA does not want to surrender and that was pretty much the end of our talks. I know you are trying to do what you can mate, its nothing against you.
~Norbe~
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:26 pm
by caesar2
Norbe mate, funny, i hear something similar in past
TO can surender, TLE must disband
what a heck?!
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:28 pm
by Tekki
c2, you want to talk to REK and or ETL, on the assumption that they can ORDER their empires to obey them.
Well, even assuming the above was true, can you ORDER HR/TTF to obey you IF you did get to talk to either of them and make a deal?
We all know the answer is no. You have no authority outside of CoTO and while you may be a member of this TF HC (which I was told was disbanded a while back) until you have similar authority within them why should they make a deal with someone who doesn't have similar power?
On the front of diplomats, I'll make the following clear -
1 I've tried to avoid any diplomatic discussion due to various histories or perceived history. You say you wont talk to me, that's fine ceasar but you have similar history so no one wants to talk to you for similar reasons you have given.
2. Any deal that is made by DDE or OE has to be accepted by the other and won't be accepted 'on the spot'. You guys have to go talk to your members, well surprise surprise, FUALL does too.
3. If DDE makes a deal OE doesn't go 'oh no I don't want that' rather we consider it, the reverse is also true.
4. Ancient Lord Larsa is the OE Empire Diplomat though due to time zones sometimes talking with others is also good, but ALL of us in OE will be taking it back for discussion to the OE HC. This includes 1horseman or ETL. Pretty much any senior OE HC member may discuss stuff but it all is approved by the rest of the HC. I'll PM a list if people really don't know who's who.
5. Jedi's already told you the lay of the land with DDE diplomats.
6. who is on this TTF HC which was supposedly dissolved. A list would be nice.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:21 pm
by jedi~tank
Norbe wrote:Jedi~Tank wrote:Norbe wrote:Jedi~Tank wrote:Thats not true Caesar, I tried many times, its not our fault your HC isnt cohesive and can sit down on a schedule. And BTW, Diplomats represent leaders and speak for thier respective alliances or empires because they cannot all be on at the same time. Do not Diss diplomats.
Sorry JT, but in our discussions you keep telling me that there would be no deals for TF as a whole, only individual alliances.
~Norbe~
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[spoiler]Thursday, 6 August, 2009
[19:30] ~Norbe~ THE IMMORTAL ANCIENT GOD: i have a question
[19:30] ~Norbe~ THE IMMORTAL ANCIENT GOD: will you be making similar offers to the other alliances, or just to TÅF?
[19:36] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: just TAF because TLE are the ones that kind of started it all
Sunday, 9 August, 2009
[02:55] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: TAF can surrender or say fuall won
[02:55] Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC]: TLE must delete or disband[/spoiler]
After that point I told you that TA does not want to surrender and that was pretty much the end of our talks. I know you are trying to do what you can mate, its nothing against you.
~Norbe~
thank you bud , those are indeed my words 2 months ago almost.
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:27 pm
by Stampeda
Jedi~Tank wrote:Stampeda wrote:I'll tell you this Empires will ruin this game in long term simple of the boredom itself
Look the the Roman empire ( talking about historic now ) it went bye bye !
And whatever empires existed that time it all went to dingles
Rlly if you wan't to form a group with 300 , split it already and fight eachother and have a laugh about it ...
Or just gang up build till u roll over with recources and let the game die serieusly why even bothering topics like these that doesn't resolve anything
People are blind and don't look futher in the future instead their looking in their bags what they have.
And you are?
Someone thats been playing 5 years
Someone that been in an empire knows what an advantage it gives.
Someone thats been in every war (Empire wars).
Someone that seen DDE raise from the ashes.
Hope that brings u on some ideas
Empires are like I said not challenging , people just hide under the tag for protection so they won't lose allot of their income etc etc ...
This is my point of view Jedi , if u want to change it u'll have to come with somewhat bigger material bud !
Re: Only Discussion Thread - Human Resistance vs Empires War
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:31 pm
by Rodwolf
Stampeda wrote:Jedi~Tank wrote:Stampeda wrote:I'll tell you this Empires will ruin this game in long term simple of the boredom itself
Look the the Roman empire ( talking about historic now ) it went bye bye !
And whatever empires existed that time it all went to dingles
Rlly if you wan't to form a group with 300 , split it already and fight eachother and have a laugh about it ...
Or just gang up build till u roll over with recources and let the game die serieusly why even bothering topics like these that doesn't resolve anything
People are blind and don't look futher in the future instead their looking in their bags what they have.
And you are?
Someone thats been playing 5 years
Someone that been in an empire knows what an advantage it gives.
Someone thats been in every war (Empire wars).
Someone that seen DDE raise from the ashes.
Hope that brings u on some ideas
Empires are like I said not challenging , people just hide under the tag for protection so they won't lose allot of their income etc etc ...
This is my point of view Jedi , if u want to change it u'll have to come with somewhat bigger material bud !
*Jumps up and down*
I know who you are, I know who you are!
Do i get a cookie?
