Ragnarök : DDE & Allies vs Terran Family

[reborn]

Seriously , this is a pointless war that in my opinion has killed the desire for people to want to play, a server war going on for over 2 years is pointless.

If Mathlord thinks DDE will surrender he is dumber that I thought, And Im sure DDE know that TF wont surrender

such a shame

The real shame is that the people who originally wanted this, no longer play. They absolutely got their way.

Prior to this war DDE and TAF had years of peace, with only some issues. JediTank was smart enough to understand that when war came around, it was likely to go on for a very long time and have serious repercussions for the game as a whole. We worked hard to keep things peaceful and succeeded. The leadership of DDE that succeeded him didn't share that view, instead wanting an endless war. To this day they are the ones not wanting to talk.

@reborn: are you actually a pathological liar? It must be a medical condition right...

@jack: Remember that we let you leave in peace, yet only a couple of weeks later you decided to rejoin the war with us... says a lot about how "shameful" this ongoing war really is that you chose to rejoin it.

~Norbe~

Im what?

Did u get missed out on some info?

Did you miss the reason why Am heh left?

We came to you, that being Scott was detailed off with offering a way out for both sides, noone wins.

And the replys back from Mathlord to Scott which i have screen shots too of there convos, of that will not happen unless DDE surrenders anything apart from that TAF wasnt intrested in.

So is that a lie or would screen shots be better for you?

The one that seems to be a liar here that being you look back to start of thread, the ones that did start this war is long gone, but you blamed Mayhem for that and massed them, you didnt mass DDE, but as DDE was allied with them, we backed them up, now you can preach anything different story , but the facts are there from the start of this thread.

[reborn]

Explain why half your actives dropped tags to mass Judgment then magically rejoined DDE after a week or two even though they previously claimed to be 100% done with this war.

Care to highlight this bit?, we dropped tags to mass Judgement?

[Norbe]

I'll just requote what mathlord just said.. because that's the truth.

Now yes, we did listen to your previous attempt at ending the war back in the Fall. You attempted to admit defeat but your wording wasn't exactly selling that point home as it should have. While we deliberated, your offer was removed from the table, which honestly is fine by me. Because here's a question for you...what would you do if we were at peace? Would you declare war on someone else? Who? I hate to break it to you, but if you want a good fight, we're about your only choice...unless you don't want a good fight I suppose. That's probably it. You'd rather go back to your old stat building ways of massing noobs and talking about how godly you are doing it. Well that's tough for you guys, because massing your stats is the highlight of my sgw experience. Do I want you to resolve our differences and seek peace? Hell no. Do I want you to surrender? Hell no. I want to beat the crap out of you over and over and over again because it's damn fun to be called a bully by the people who have spent a decade trying to ruin the game for so many. Massing you. Completes. Me.

That said. Our diplomat's office is always open when you're ready to talk. If you ask nicely enough and give us cake, we might consider letting you go back to feeling good about yourself fighting a weaker opponent.

[reborn]

But u just said i was a liar by saying that didnt happen.

So Math confirms that we came to u guys just like we did with OE, now u lot throwed it away, not that i care, but its still true what i said, Math confirmed, it, now ur sayign its the truth.

So which part did i lie on Norbe????

[Mathlord]

We were waiting to mass DDE for when I got back from my two week conference trip...we originally were going to wait to do anything for that (I BEGGED) but Jotunheim had done enough by that point that we couldn't wait any longer.

Of course I initially said we'd only accept DDE's surrender when Harchester approached me. I'm a snarky son of a gun, especially to Harchester who was only sort of a DDE member at the time. But he convinced me to listen to your proposal and we did seriously consider it especially once he said that wording would include a DDE admission of defeat...and it kind of did...you guys admitted that your activity had faltered at the end but it wasn't quite what we wanted. We were voting on it as an alliance when you pulled your proposal. We wanted to gauge what members actually wanted. You'd have been surprised, I actually spoke highly of the seeming genuineness of new DDE leadership to make a change from what got you lot in the mess you are in now.

Of course it was right around when you pulled that offer, that you brought Ritalin in and all of a sudden KJ was a fast masser for the first time in his career and Robert was magically repairing and autorefilling uu into spies and supers after every hit (exactly what teesdale accused harch of doing in the cheaters section). It has been an interesting year.

[Mathlord]

But u just said i was a liar by saying that didnt happen.

So Math confirms that we came to u guys just like we did with OE, now u lot throwed it away, not that i care, but its still true what i said, Math confirmed, it, now ur sayign its the truth.

So which part did i lie on Norbe????

You came to us. We were voting on it. You withdrew your offer while we were discussing. Sure we were taking awhile. Democracy can be slower than an Oligarchy.

[Mathlord]

Explain why half your actives dropped tags to mass Judgment then magically rejoined DDE after a week or two even though they previously claimed to be 100% done with this war.

Care to highlight this bit?, we dropped tags to mass Judgement?

Do you not remember the great DDE schism with Robert's side alliance? Do you not remember the half dozen members of DDE that joined that side alliance because they were done with this war only to start a war with Judgement right afterwards and then rejoin DDE right after? The only two (interestingly enough) that have been true to their word that they wanted an end to this war are Robert and Osiris. Props to them for being true to their word. Or is that just because Robert still owes you a ton of naq that he doesn't want to pay back?

[reborn]

We withdraw are offer?

First i heard of it.

As for KJ , did you not ever notice someone was on Vac, and maybe just maybe it wasnt infact KJ playing the account and making out he was?

If u speak to Judgement, you will see Rob left, he left with Rit, Os left too, and the other Rob did too.

Now out of all those ppl only Rob was massign them, Judgemnet can confirm that. After a few days of Oe war with them, did others join in, but by that time Os had already sold up and was then in hands of Anti, so Anti didnt leave. But as i said thats was just a few days Anti came back and so did Rob.

I made it quite clear that is Rit was to come back to DDE i was leaving, Com and Dcdeath agreed with me, cus they didnt want him there in the first place.

[~Dä Vinci~]

**Filtered** me this thread is still going... it's hurting my eyes just reading it.

[Flintcawk]

We withdraw are offer?

First i heard of it.

As for KJ , did you not ever notice someone was on Vac, and maybe just maybe it wasnt infact KJ playing the account and making out he was?

If u speak to Judgement, you will see Rob left, he left with Rit, Os left too, and the other Rob did too.

Now out of all those ppl only Rob was massign them, Judgemnet can confirm that. After a few days of Oe war with them, did others join in, but by that time Os had already sold up and was then in hands of Anti, so Anti didnt leave. But as i said thats was just a few days Anti came back and so did Rob.

I made it quite clear that is Rit was to come back to DDE i was leaving, Com and Dcdeath agreed with me, cus they didnt want him there in the first place.

So why let him join in first place?

[reborn]

Rob invited, rob left with him...

[Mathlord]

Rob invited, rob left with him...

You should have a conversation with Mister Anti Christ about Ritalin then. He seems to be under the impression that Ritalin was and always will be a saint

[Flintcawk]

Rob invited, rob left with him...

You should have a conversation with Mister Anti Christ about Ritalin then. He seems to be under the impression that Ritalin was and always will be a saint

+1

[Colonel Jack Oneill]

Mathlord, you statement about me and desiring peace is **Filtered** and you know it, and im sure a few other TF members if honest to themselves, can contest to that, as I am at peace with a few of your current members. And again your wrong when you say its only hurting DDE this drawn out war is hurting both sides with inactive or players leaving.

I left with Rit and Trux cause he was the only one I really talked to when I returned after 5 years of being gone. And when he pulled the **Filtered** he did, I lost all respect for him and rejoined DDE, an alliance I have history with.

As for the war on Judgement , I didn't get involved until I was massed by Neb, not knowing that Osiris had declared war on them(no communication),during that short war I met alot of awesome player in Judgement, and alliance I could make my home one day, and members that I would fight with and for. Neb and Trib to throws some names out there

Rant over

[Flintcawk]

Mathlord, you statement about me and desiring peace is **Filtered** and you know it, and im sure a few other TF members if honest to themselves, can contest to that, as I am at peace with a few of your current members. And again your wrong when you say its only hurting DDE this drawn out war is hurting both sides with inactive or players leaving.

I left with Rit and Trux cause he was the only one I really talked to when I returned after 5 years of being gone. And when he pulled the **Filtered** he did, I lost all respect for him and rejoined DDE, an alliance I have history with.

As for the war on Judgement , I didn't get involved until I was massed by Neb, not knowing that Osiris had declared war on them(no communication),during that short war I met alot of awesome player in Judgement, and alliance I could make my home one day, and members that I would fight with and for. Neb and Trib to throws some names out there

Rant over

Okay bud too help explain yes we do have some accounts that are underequipped too fight. So just becuase they dont fight, some are active. Not all but some.
I personally am A-ok with this war.

As for trux indeed he is a snake. When i returned too game last year i was very close with him.
Over time unfortunately we drifted apart over difference of opinion.
Your cool guy dont let forum BS or politics get too you.... just have some fun bro.