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Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:36 am
by Pig Newton
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Pig Still has alot of cheated resources


Equipped Military Fleet Attack 81959986 5760/5760
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 10000000 5750/5750


82m weapons.


This is a never-ending crapfest. I informed Admin of those resources hours ago. It was from a trade that I did not make that timed out. I informed them before it expired and told them exactly where the resouces went.

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:55 am
by Envy
Pig Newton wrote:
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Pig Still has alot of cheated resources


Equipped Military Fleet Attack 81959986 5760/5760
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 10000000 5750/5750


82m weapons.


This is a never-ending crapfest. I informed Admin of those resources hours ago. It was from a trade that I did not make that timed out. I informed them before it expired and told them exactly where the resouces went.


Or delete ur account and make a new one problem solved.

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:02 am
by Clarkey
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Pig Still has alot of cheated resources


Equipped Military Fleet Attack 81959986 5760/5760
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 10000000 5750/5750


82m weapons.

Give him a break!
He's explained those weapons and i'm sure admin will deal with them.

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:45 am
by ~Odin~
clarkey wrote:
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Pig Still has alot of cheated resources


Equipped Military Fleet Attack 81959986 5760/5760
Targeted Spacial Distortions Defense 10000000 5750/5750


82m weapons.

Give him a break!
He's explained those weapons and i'm sure admin will deal with them.

my thoughts exactly....shawn aka pig newton is a good bloke he has been more then happy to help admin and been honest with every step....people do not judge him he is a victim in all of this...admin knows everything going on he has been emailed all the infomation and even he can look through records and knows whats going on...so untill admin re-posts or contacts shawn please stop dragging his name through the mud as its not needed.

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:53 am
by Clarkey
Yes, and everyone.... go look at the jtest account!!!!

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:45 am
by SVaRuN
Well if they are from a trade then someone just lost 50% of worth...



I would check the acount never the less...








Blue

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:01 am
by Darkalbino_
Wow imagine sabbing that many weapons you would get like 900K every sab :|

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:09 am
by SVaRuN
You would actually get almost 2 mils per sab...





Blue

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:10 am
by Darkalbino_
LOL and if they were ascended weaps too @@ holy crap :|

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:44 pm
by Theocritus
Filed a complaint against Matthew in anticipation of having resources stripped from the gifted account.

Response:


"Thank You for the Information Provided


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Your item is not covered by PayPal Buyer Protection. Thus, we are not able to help you at this point.

However, if more claims are being filed against this seller within the next 180 days we will review this case more closely.

Please contact the seller directly to solve this case. We have to debit the reversal amount as well as a 5 EUR processing fee from your PayPal account. "


Can admin please inform me of the next appropriate action, i would like to wash my hands of this incident.

I would also encourage everyone who purchased from this player to file a complaint through paypal as it will add weight to any case being brought against the perpatrator.

Regards.

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:10 pm
by Richard_Destroyer
Admin are you saying that anyone who bought goods from him were banned that is not very fare what if they did not know the goods were "HOT"? do they still get banned then?

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:26 pm
by Juliette
Richard_Destroyer wrote:Admin are you saying that anyone who bought goods from him were banned that is not very fare what if they did not know the goods were "HOT"? do they still get banned then?

If you buy a stolen bike without knowing it was stolen, and the police finds it, you will receive the money you paid for the bike (provided sufficient evidence of said trade can be relayed) and the bike will be taken from you.
There are many systems of justice wherein there is no money being returned, although in all cases the bike will be taken from you.

So why not.. if you buy stolen resources, same deal. You get banned for trading with a cheating account. Maybe you will be unbanned after presenting your case, for which you have ample opportunity.


Good job on catching this one, EWO. :)

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:23 am
by Nox
overall, i find this funny, this happened b4 and ppl dont learn, maybe banning everyone that bought stuff from this guy is too much since its lots of ppl, but i think taking 50% or more of everything they have (ms, spy lvls, army size, weapons etc) would be fair, even if they just bought 1 trill naq, they should have known better :P

if u really want to spend real $ in the game, there is an ingame market, u can buy things from there, and its oficial goods, thats the only place ppl should be using $ even if u pay more, at least you know your protected

@admin, from your post:

Forum wrote:he got those stats by a cheat. (tamper data or similar, stuffing a form value).
that cheat resulted in the auto-ban kicking in, accuont was banned.
i was asked later to look at the account, and verified the cheat, and autoban.

in short - a cheat stop tool in place worked. period


it seems your not exactly sure on how he cheated, i believe that should be the first priority, dont put your faith in the the cheat stop tool you have, go through every log u can find from this account, and check the date he got big amounts with the logs from the server, and try and do the same thing, theres probably a hole somewhere in your code, since he gets unbanned from time to time, and can do it again.

just ip banning doesnt work, thats been proven lots of times, its easy to pass that, you talked about your unix server, well, u can check all transactions the server had from the last couple of weeks, and see if its you that is accessing it ;) dont think that its impossible to access, since you cant do it yourself, nothing is impossible, thats been proven lots of times too :P


now what makes me sad, is the ppl that never cheated, always worked hard to get their accounts to the point they are right now, and get everything destroyed by ppl that used hot goods (even if they say they didnt knew it was hot goods) being someone that in the last 3 years, got destroyed a few times by cheaters and never got compensated, i urge you to start thinking more about the security issues the game have.

a suggestion i have is checking again the dev server connection with the production server, that was used a long time ago by some ppl that got huge amounts of naq like this time

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:48 am
by Parabellum
i think what you are suggesting may take up too much of their time

Re: ... and so we are morons (Hardcore pics and stories inside)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:02 am
by Nox
Parabellum wrote:i think what you are suggesting may take up too much of their time


lol, its their job :P simple has that, how many times didnt i stayed up all night working on solving security issues on my work :P its better then having everyone leaving the game, or banning most ppl and thus having everyone leave the game :P