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Brdavs wrote:Well in that case the best you can do is make sure the line does (not) get evenly drawn.
I expect you to leap to the defense of the next Al-Qaeda alliance that gets torn apart. Afteral there`s not even a general consensus BL`s a bad guy or a terrorist, heck many see him as a freedom fighter. Points of view. Who is any1 here to say he is not in that case?
But I suspect that, as in RL, some things will slide while others most certainly will not\never had. Sweet irony indeed eh.


Personally I think some are taking things a bit far as far as not forgiving ever goes... provided he learned such train of thought is wrong (be it rasist or ethnic bias or whatever you choose to clasify it) ppl could maybe let bygones be bygones.
But waving it away as in you "whine to much" and "we all think it" is fundamentally wrong. There`s a debate about word filters going on because of the "impressional youth" lurking around.
So I cant say "Zesh is a **Filtered**" but in the next thread youre passing up (certain) prejudice with "meh"... Is this a joke? How absurdly and hypocritically prune can you ppl get??? This is prolly only capped off by being insanely cathoclic while at the same time crazy pro the whole gun culture and waving the nations colors everytime a scorched terrorist pops up or gets waterboarded. (read: republican )

I allway laugh my ass of to things like this. For instance I go by the name "Private FirstClass F*ckup" in certain FPS games... and ppl get offended. Hello, were trading headshots and blood is spewing everywhere... and you take offense not at that but instead at a clearly satyrical name? Its a family server? Were killing eachother and my nick is the issue for your family? You`re one sad induvidual.


Edit: Oh, and Just hide behind TLEs roleplay, its much easier than to tackle the real issue in its rotten core.
(bit of paraphrasing of an old favorite some of you may remember )

Severian wrote:I hate purple People.

I hope the one eye one horn flying purple people eater gets them all.

What did we ever do to you?

The problem wit this is that if we allow a little, the kind of dudes who do it will think it's free game, allow a bit and they thik it's 101% free for all! That's why 0 tolerance in this has to be done. Does it apply in other situations than racist words, such as robbing stuff? I don' think so. We won't kill someone for saying a stupid thing in a free country, but doesnt mean we have to go "its what he thinks, we cant do anything...", I'm notsaying so that we must act extrem and kill all robbers and rude people, that'd be heavy stupid. Just show them with a away or another what they did is WRONG! If you people who said it's not that bad what he said, you do NOT help him realizing what he said! He'll think well opinion is opnion etc... To teach people not to cross line, we have sometimes to react hard way, to show the person what he did was WRONG and NEVER do it again. Sure some people don't listen...but well they often regret it later and say to their parents; you were right, while I wasn't!
And why did zerathull made this topic?
"Im racist so be it"? I see nothing stating "you are wrong I made big mistake I ask for your apologize and hope youll forgive me soon, I'm deeply sorry", that's HOW it MUST HAVE BEEN, and THEN, I would have forgotten him!
Not so hard isn't it??

APADAMEK! wrote:

Thakallus wrote:

LadiesMan 217 wrote:lol firstly tell me ur race and ur country so i can tell some stupid raciest things about it cause im sure wherever ur from there has been some raicest thing made about u..

Try to say that and I'm telling you that your account will be being destroyed as long as I play this game.

and this is the best thing...you said that what zera wrote is really wrong and NOW YOU'RE ASKING HIM WHERE IS HE FROM to INSULT HIS WHOLE NATION AND RACE ?

so you are aswell offending whole slovak nation and therefore me ASWELL

WTH ... and you're telling me that is not racism,eh ?
it is,because you're judging whole country based on one invididual eh?

try that and you will see the outcome...

Thats not racism. Thats not even close. Stop throwing the word around if you don't know what it means, and don't give me "modern interpretation!"

you're blind right?
then maybe discriminating,but who said I need a reason for massing ...

its Ethnocentric. Judging others culture through your own morals. For example an American woman would probably not like the thought of some islamic nations ordering women to cover up when over in America they can wear whatever (short of nudity etc.) Now What "Zerathull" said was Ethnocentric and what "ladiesman217" was trying to say was that you can be ethnocentric about any country. Or something like that.

Today's word of the day is
Ethnocentric

Missed your cunning edit ye skallywag. No you can mass for whatever you want, you could mass him because his army number was uneven and you just wanted to lower it a bit and got carried away. Just whatever reasons you do mass for, make sure you use the correct words to describe why.

APADAMEK! wrote:its Ethnocentric. Judging others culture through your own morals. For example an American woman would probably not like the thought of some islamic nations ordering women to cover up when over in America they can wear whatever (short of nudity etc.) Now What "Zerathull" said was Ethnocentric and what "ladiesman217" was trying to say was that you can be ethnocentric about any country. Or something like that.

Today's word of the day is
Ethnocentric

Missed your cunning edit ye skallywag. No you can mass for whatever you want, you could mass him because his army number was uneven and you just wanted to lower it a bit and got carried away. Just whatever reasons you do mass for, make sure you use the correct words to describe why.

welcome to our new idiot on forums !

lol firstly tell me ur race and ur country so i can tell some stupid raciest things about it

He said "tell me your race" - things about race
He said "so i can tell some stupid raciest things" - that means he's gonna be telling RACIST things about a race ...

and that makes not him a racist ...

great way of thinking...indeed great.

Thakallus wrote:
so you are aswell offending whole slovak nation and therefore me ASWELL

WTH ... and you're telling me that is not racism,eh ?"

Yes i am telling you thats not racism. Thats ethnocentrism.

APADAMEK! wrote:

Thakallus wrote:
so you are aswell offending whole slovak nation and therefore me ASWELL

WTH ... and you're telling me that is not racism,eh ?"

Yes i am telling you thats not racism. Thats ethnocentrism.

Meh,on that one perhaps you're right,but he was also saying stuff about race,so that's why that post.
Perhaps I should have been more clear on that one.

I still dont get what this author of thread is doing.. whining about the fact that he doesnt have good toilet or that he doesnt have any TL friends so that he has to come use a computer, talk to SGW ppl and hide behind his computer screen the whole day..?

secondly..to Thakallus, the accusations he made were soo very one sided... lol as he said in his first post its his opinion. and i can express my own opinion about Slovakia ppl ( i dont know any other then on sgw but i can go on google too)...

third.. aurial.. do u use the synonym button much? cause u have to remember most sgw players are kids (not saying i am) and cant understand what u write from using the synonym button in Microsoft word

finally.. some1 can srsly complain about this thread .. and say it "hurts their feeling" and the mods have to delete it.. otherwise they encourage this raciest behavior on sgw... not saying i will complain cause im not the kind u are referring to.. but ya y doesnt the auther of this thread speak and tell me what he truely whining about instead of his "friends" messaging in here for him,

lol care

Zerathull you where such a great fighter i suggest you man handle Zesh

Thakallus wrote:

Zerathull wrote:I don't like them for their ACTS,not because they are this or those.
and before you start smth I have many many many black,brown friends which I indeed like,but what zera is saying this is a different matter.

Thx mate for writting what I am writitng the whole time......

I am defending my post just by what you said here in yours mate.....

Though I named the race to which I was reffering to I nearly judged their ACTIONS and BEHAVIOR and thats what I was trying to say the whole time but zesh just keeped putting more fuel in the fire and didnt listen nor cared about what I said.....

As I said he hates me because of our past conflitcs so he cant really be objective and a chance he would actually start listening and read carefully what I am saying si 0......

Anyone that will read that original post from TLE thread wont find anything saying:
"I hate pakistans"
"I am better than pakistans"
"Pakistans are the lowest race"

Unless someone would edit the original post there is no possibility they could find anything like this there.....
I nearly said that people of this race and a certain group of them were unhygienic......I can take anything but not washing your hands after using the toilet and then want to shake a hand with colleague is disqusting.........

There is no point in defending myself anymore since people already made up their minds.......

As Svarun says(and sorry for taking it from you lan):

"I learned something new today"

thank you SGW community

The fact is I learned that people on this forum are incapable to say "I/we forgive you"
thats excatly it.....forgive because I made a mistake and people understood it in a way it wasnt meant.......

You know I could care less about what anyone of you think about me since your are somewhere on the on the other half of the world but my biggest regret is that I wasted loads of time trying to defend my post and prove that I am no racist and what did I get in return?

bla bla yadda yadda your a nasty racist,we have made up our minds and we are not curious about you defending your actions....we are unable to forgive you so just leave us

Really thx for that.........fopr wasting perfect 2 years on this game......

People that know me in RL know who I am and if they would think I would be a racist I wouldnt probably have any friends......

As said before you cant compare actions in the game or forum to RL because it doesnt mean if someone is nasty to you in the GC that he is a bad person in RL aswell.....I suppose you finally made an exception in my case and think I am a bad person in RL aswell so......

caesar2 wrote:Hmm... i dont know the whole story, but i know zera from RL and i know hes not racist... maybe alcoholic but never had problems with any races. Sometimes man write A, another one read A but see B and tell C to the world. I dont care what was A, B or C. But i know zerathull and he's good man, good friend; sometimes "burns" on forum but we all do it.

thx mate for the backup and yes I am hoheaded sometimes.....need to work o my temper a bit though

and about alcoholic?.....well you were not around in BB at tuesday so I couldnt actually prove you wrong
thx for bringing a bit of happiness in these dark days

Zerathull wrote:The fact is I learned that people on this forum are incapable to say "I/we forgive you"
thats excatly it.....forgive because I made a mistake and people understood it in a way it wasnt meant.......

lol u made a mistake but instead of asking for sry.. u go around and back up ur accusations in this sorry thread as well lol.. wat do u expect for sgw.

Zerathull wrote:
Anyone that will read that original post from TLE thread wont find anything saying:
"I hate pakistans"
"I am better than pakistans"
"Pakistans are the lowest race"

i have to admit.. i think im worse then that about some (it might be a different one or not).. but i dont go around telling every1 about it.. or else i would so easily get bombed....

again to the authoer.. wat was the point of telling every1 this.. lol now u have a chance of getting bombed.. waht a retard..//

PS: u still refuse to answer my question.. r u a loner, u dont have friends so thats y u gotta express ur opinion on sgw?

Auriel wrote:
Zerathull.. so many people around here have once in their avatar's existence acted against karma.. it always balances out in the endgame. I trust you are otherwise well. And remember, speaking is silver, silence is gold. I have had lots of gold.. silver will do for just this once again.
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Thx for the words......really are apreciated.....thank you

Actually Auriel the funny thing is ladiesman thinks I dont have any friends because I am trying to sort out this here in the forum,actually its kinda funny if u think of it

To ladiesman:

Yes actually you are right.......I should stop posting here on this ridiculous forum and go meet my mates and tell them:

"Hey guys,guess what?I made a mistake and posted something on a forum that insulted many people though I didnt mean to insult anyone and now they think I am racist and I cant change their opinion about me because they think I am racist in RL aswell...just so you know!And the best part is I am wasting valuable hours on the silly forum trying to apologiaze and explain everything....silly dont you think guys?haha"

Their reply would most probably be:
"Well if they dont know you personally it doesnt have to bother you...lets go grab a beer"

Yes my mates are very curious what is happening on a certain game forum about which they never heard their whole life and am pretty sure they cant wait when will i start sorting out this with them......


I have a conflict with people from this forum,not my mates and bothering my mates with such boring stuff isnt really what I have in mind although thank you for your inteliggent post

all i can say is.. u made a mistake and now ur getting bombed by them..
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Apophis The Great wrote:I was his friend, I joined the wagon.
Do you think if it was that unworrying I would have did it?
When he said things to TLE and got banned I didnt join the wagon zera is a noob!
So it's more important than you think my friend.
And I don't see why you minimize things, such things untolerated here period no light or semi or anything coments that style period!
Otherwise we will see this place be crappy and noway it happens!
That's how it starts.

You were my friend?
you joined the wagon?

Yes you probably were my friend......thats a difference when you say I am your friend and when you say I was your friend...thats the past tense

Anyway why didnt you join the wagon "zerathull is a noob"

You seriously think I care what anyone from TLE says?please
These guys were dishonourbale the whole time AK had a war with TDL....except a few good blokes like hellfire

Heck......just for all this to continue zesh would even spend his lifetime savngs to buy some fuel and put in the fire just like that

You see Jim I regret the fact I tried to defend myself here on this silly forum and spend hours reposting and answering those ridiculous flamings towards me but it was really a waste of time.......

"These people cant forgive,the word forgive those not exist in their vocabulary"
period

Agapooka wrote:When I read this thread, I see discrimination against people accused of discrimination. Sweet irony. That word is tossed around too much. Everyone whines about how bad it is while they do it themselves. As Auriel ponted out, this wasn't racism, but another type of bias. Essentially, what we see here is people getting upset about what they hate about themselves when they see it in others.

Let's face it, everyone is biased. Some biases are more extreme than others, but only in their degree. Hatred and extreme hatred are both disgusting things, and it would be hypocritical for one to hate extreme hatred when he himself hates. This place was never about policing people's thoughts and it shouldn't be now. That said, it is a mod's job to censor inappropriate remarks, but we oughtn't force our ways of thinking upon others, no matter how wrong we believe them to be. I believe that racism is wrong, but apart from general consensus, who am I to say that it is?

Should I start to call out TLE for calling themselves Romans? Romans, after all, were into slavery! Romans were racist and cruel! Romans called every non-Roman a barbarian (apparently an allusion to the fact that foreign languages sounded like sheep... bah-bah-rians). But that was a long time ago, it's ok, they can be glorified today. Where do we draw the line?

Agapooka

I will remember the first article for the rest of my life......really nicely said agapoka

Although I think I will disspaoint you as curyumo said before all smart posts are ignored so lets get back to the flaming

"Zerathull is a racist....to bruning hells with him"

this getting a bit funny though if u thin of it in some sort of way......I feel like a witcher.......the whole village hates but "I am innocent,innocent I tell ya"