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Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:53 pm
by Munchy
Removing caps..

In main removing them would be a very bad idea. If you think uu & at prices are bad right now..well, suffice to say they would be much worse.

Ascension is abit of a different beast. Obviously a 'one time move' of the cap upwards would be useless. A dynamic cap is a possibility, but that still screws over the bigger players more than the smaller ones. Removing the caps altogether is another thing, but take a look at the ascension test server and you can see what it is like with players having over 100 billion army. (and only thing holding people back over there is the limited amount of conversion digits).

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:53 pm
by ~Massin4Christ~
Meth wrote:
SVaRuN wrote:1. thing pergatory ppl and ppl without main acounts cannot attack on ascension that would be the first thing I would do...

2. then I would do some serious increase in weps cost...so weps wouldnt be easy to buy just like in main...

3. Then I would decrease the power of assassinating...

4. Plague needs to be fixed


Totally 111% agree :)


Agree 75% or so.... Make a perg place in ascended, if your in perg in main you go in perg in ascended... So no, haha im in perg in main you cant get me... Or if you go dormant on 1 realm you have to go dormant on the other realm...

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:39 pm
by fremen
Shadow 401567027
Intelligence 600234150
Military 0 0 0
Military Systems 356637772

That's what you had before I assassinated you. Talk to your pals. It was not a very balanced defense as you have more covert then assassins. Helps to keep the small fry from knowing your dmu amount, but doesn't do you a bit of good if a bad guy comes calling with a grudge to settle.

Also as a side note, I assassinated you because someone from your alliance did something similar to me. It is part and parcel of warfare. I would have retaliated on them, but they weren't worth the cost and you are a Musketeers like team of one for all and all for one.

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:15 am
by Draleg
I dont care about you assasinating me Fremen , i knew it was you , and the reason why bothers me even less , its all part of the game.

this tread was not made cos i was massed by you .

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:32 am
by ARC_trooper
Ascension shouldnt be removed :P What else do we need to go to when main is on PPT? :-D

and about the caps, there has to be a better solution! now we can all whine and cry but nobody comes with a new cool solution for the big players AND smaller players - Or i missed it lol

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:34 am
by fremen
Okay then. Carry on and ignore my previous post.

Just do consider that when you make suggestions to change the game play: no one gets to choose who uses the update.

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:41 am
by Draleg
we all play the way we want to and the way the game alows you to play , i have no problem with you playing the pirat role , i have no problem with snipers , ok there anoiing but still part of the game , i just feel it an injustice that i have a +190k UP and only get 40k , maby its better to have a plague like in main , at least if you get massed you wold have a fair growth.

as for the " Musketeers like team " , yes i never mind taking hits for my alliance , thats why we are in a " alliance "

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:49 am
by Chris M
Draleg wrote:I dont care about you assasinating me Fremen , i knew it was you , and the reason why bothers me even less , its all part of the game.

this tread was not made cos i was massed by you .

actually it was, because now YOU know what its like to have the shoe on the other foot, YOU are trying to change things.
if it didnt happen to you would you care?
where was this thread a week before you got hit
or a month...

good luck


p.s. case in point i do agree with the arguement in question. changes are needed

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:55 pm
by repli**cator
bebita wrote:STOP MOANING AND PLAY :-D
for replicator tipe

if directed at me i wasnt really moaning (well not really explicitly lol) and i do play :D (well i raid as much as i can)

Borek wrote:
repli**cator wrote:repli**cator wrote:
reset main and ascension !


or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves :P

that's the problem, once you get past the raiding cap you've only got UP to increase army size with, so if you get massed you only have UP to recover with, whereas a smaller enemy can just raid or buy their losses back. So there is no incentive at all for the big accounts to actually go to war, in fact there is every reason for them to protect what they have already got.

well true but i mean to say they should destroy themselves on equally large accounts :D (why attack smalle enemies :P)


and a slight note, well of course i'm inferior to ppl who spend more tiem on this game raiding and such it's only normal there are bigger and smaller players...

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:49 pm
by Iƒrit
in all fairness it really doesnt take a new player long to build I grew my ascended to 570m planets in less then 3 months and took a few massings along the way. At that time it opened several oppertunities for me to get nice DMU hits and thus grow even faster then before.

A rolling cap would be nice, and I agree that there should be a rolling plague limit as well.

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:07 pm
by ~Massin4Christ~
:o

Im very surprised a mod hasnt moved this to the ascended discussion playground... Im glad its staying here as more people will view it here!

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:56 am
by Draleg
hmm , it must be my charm :) and yes more ppl see it here , comming wensday if i'm online i wil present the problem to Jason.

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:23 am
by Nox
PSICOLIX wrote:Posible solutions:

For the Cap thing:
well i woude recomend a CAP on the CAP. a 25% SAFE UP.
example:
Size ________________ Now ____with 25% safe
2.000.000.000,00 100,00% 100,00%
3.000.000.000,00 54,43% 65,82%
4.000.000.000,00 35,36% 51,52%
5.000.000.000,00 25,30% 43,97%
6.000.000.000,00 19,25% 39,43%
7.000.000.000,00 15,27% 36,45%
8.000.000.000,00 12,50% 34,38%
9.000.000.000,00 10,48% 32,86%
10.000.000.000,00 8,94% 31,71%

For The Snipers Thing:
-Make the numbers of units you can have trained in ascension tied with you MAIN ream. (you need falowers to train the troops).
1 Mill Main Units = 10 Mill Trained Planets.

-Reduce the Time to ascended Hits for 1 by HOUR.


i actually think this is a good idea, psicolix, you should go to the admin chat and suggest that

something really needs to be done, especially about the ppl that are on vacation mode in main and sniper in ascension :? its just wrong

and maybe this thread should remain here, cause its not just about ascension, its about ascension and its connections to main, and about everyone in sgw that plays both, so its sgw general :-D

and maybe here, jason will see it :P

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:55 am
by Defense-Forcefield
SVaRuN wrote:1. thing pergatory ppl and ppl without main acounts cannot attack on ascension that would be the first thing I would do...

2. then I would do some serious increase in weps cost...so weps wouldnt be easy to buy just like in main...

3. Then I would decrease the power of assassinating...

4. Plague needs to be fixed


agreed for purgatory players, and make vac mode for both realms
agreed for weapon cost, they are way too little for now
agreed for assassinating, the kill way too much for very low loses
disagree for the plague, snipers have already enought bonuses. If we remove the plague, they will hit with an attack power impossible to defend

but i would add :
remove % in attack/defense
allow ascended personnal attack every 2 hours (or 1 as said before)

Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:06 am
by Legendary Apophis
I disagree with perg part, I'm planning to visit the called "pergatory" place for first time of my life in few days, just because I heard that this place was better for farming than main. So just because I go there I should be unable to play ascended properly? Really talking of fair things...just because few people abuse perg shouldn't condemne all others who go there not to hide but because they have exams or something else time taking and want to have a place where they don't have to watch all the time to find good hits and continue playing the game...