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Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:37 am
by whereisflapy
Slugworth Assrot wrote:It seems perfectly normal to me.

I've raided about 220mil UU in the past few months, and I can get just as much now as I did before the update.

Maybe the percentage is a little lower, but the UU is still out there. As long as you keep to the same raiding standards, whats the difference?


Same for me. IF you set to WAR, you get 2% as before. + i still raid the same amount of UUs per 15 AT as i did before. they just have like the doubble amount of UU in the open... and it's getting easier to find every day.

Admin could also set it back to what it was before but then it will be an incredible raid feast which is the contrary of the effect he intended.

Or say that it would be a % based on your army size going regularly down until hitting the raiding cap... so small guys can raid more that Big guys.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:01 am
by Slugworth Assrot
lol, dont say things like that.

Raiding should be equal for everyone.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:39 am
by GeneralChaos
The raid fest would be over in a week, admin gives people more turns but slows raiding down, do you want to speed the game up or slow it down????

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:50 am
by LuLz
the diffrence, slughorn, is in time u use for raiding...before the update I raided 4 mil UU in 2 hours with no problems. Yesterday I raided 1 hour and a half and got 1,5 mil and that was because I stole 500k UU off someone, and I used the same amount of AT like I did before so u might say oh the rate hasn't changed if u seek more carefully - it's all ok...true it hasn't changed IF u seek A LOT more carefully but that takes A LOT more time

And I set war to everyone I raided yesterday - and guess what, the amount of UU I stole from a guy with 450k UU varried from 9k/15 AT to 4,5k/15AT and before the update I got 12k from a guy with 450k UU out and the rate didn't varry for that much, about 2k UU max

And like GC said, the raid fest would be over in a week and then things would be back to normal and considering we couldn't raid normally in 1 week noone would acctualy profit much

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:53 am
by Slugworth Assrot
I dont notice a difference at all... not in the time spent, or in the return.

Most of my regular targets have topped up to the point where they give the same results i was getting before the update.

Everything seems fine to me. O.o

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:02 am
by LuLz
Well one big diffrence is how the rate varries with each attack...for instance the guy whom I raided yesterday:
Aug 29, 2008 13,055 Untrained Units Kidnapped 15 0 0 847,880 3 details
Aug 29, 2008 17,582 Untrained Units Kidnapped 15 0 0 1,875,348 3 details
Aug 29, 2008 22,854 Untrained Units Kidnapped 15 0 0 850,036 3 details
Aug 29, 2008 20,250 Untrained Units Kidnapped 15 0 0 943,988 3 details

so almost 10k UU diffrence between second and 4th attack, this never, I repeat, NEVER happened before the update with such diffrence.
And I do think that almost everyone will agree with me when I say that raiding has been messed up very badly with this update - if you want to get the same rate like u used to get, you'll need to spend a lot more time searching for targets...

Also just so u know, I started 2 months ago and raided over 45 mil UU from then so I do raid quite a lot aswell

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:18 am
by Slugworth Assrot
Those amounts seem normal to me.... I've always noticed that the upper limit is about double the lower limit.

Considering you hit a 13k (assuming that was a 'low' hit) you would have hit anything between 13 and 26k uu, which you did.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:30 pm
by Noobert
There is a possibility it will be increased soon. So be patient. ;)

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:09 pm
by seti god of chaos
I am fine with were its at.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:06 am
by whereisflapy
LuLz wrote:the diffrence, slughorn, is in time u use for raiding...before the update I raided 4 mil UU in 2 hours with no problems. Yesterday I raided 1 hour and a half and got 1,5 mil and that was because I stole 500k UU off someone, and I used the same amount of AT like I did before so u might say oh the rate hasn't changed if u seek more carefully - it's all ok...true it hasn't changed IF u seek A LOT more carefully but that takes A LOT more time


Let's take another thing into considerations. that update is the same for everyone. so everyones raiding as been slowed down. And what is important in SGW is the relative score, not the absolute one. You need to be better than THE OTHERS. whatever absolute score they make, you need to have one higher than them... to grow faster and beat them.

So if you used to make 2 mil per hour and others did 1 mil. if you now make 1 mil per hour, they should make 500k ... you're still winner. So the goal would be to slow down "more slowly" than your concurrents in a way.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:13 am
by LuLz
yea lol but u don't get what i'm trying to say :-D i don't care that everyone else's raiding has been slowed down aswell, all I care about is the time I used to need to get 4 mil UU and the time I now need to get 4 mil UU which was doubled...and considering I, in any case, grow faster than the ones I'm trying to reach (those growing only with UP) the only thing the update did was to double the time for me to reach that goal and it already takes a lot of time...so yeah raiding needs to be fixed to pay out for a lot of us to raid

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:33 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
I dont understand why it suddenly takes you twice as long?

Before the update you didnt raid unless you got 10k+ and now you are happy to take 5k+??? Something like that??

Just raid to the same standards you used to, and everything will be fine. Its been a while since the update now. All targets have topped up their UU pool, and now give basically the same results as before, but instead of raiding down to 250k uu for example, now you raid them down to 350k uu.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:35 pm
by mikgamer1
GeneralChaos wrote:The raid fest would be over in a week, admin gives people more turns but slows raiding down, do you want to speed the game up or slow it down????


He wanted to speed up the KILLING of everyones stats.

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:44 pm
by Sarevok
You can keep your standards, but if others drop theirs, then you will never raid.

It takes twice as long, cause it takes twice the spies to find someone with 2x the UU out then before the update to "keep" the standard

Re: Raiding Bug? Rank Bug?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:02 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
You dont need to find someone with 2x the UU out...

I stop raiding people when the average UU gain starts to fall below 5k per hit. Before the update this was around 250k UU sitting out. After the update it is now around 350k UU sitting out.

Theres hardly any difference at all.... Maybe I'm just raiding everyone, and theres nothing good left for the rest of you :P