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Thriller wrote:

Mister Sandman wrote:

Thriller wrote:Sandman your line of thinking is perpetuating the violence over there, no one has any moral high ground and picking sides in this feud is retarded.

And your wrong about owning land.

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Palestine should disperse and move into a different country if they really want to solve the issue.

Muslims don't even support Palestinians...

Real land owners.

They can't disperse because there is 11 million people, all living under 3rd world conditions that are being perpetuated by Israeli blockade. No one will take on 11 million refugee's at once.

You would think the Israelis would have more compassion for the blight they are putting these Palestinians (with no other place to go) through. Given the circumstances of how they came about the land in the first place.

ANd you would think that the Palestinians would pursue nonviolent solutions in the opposition of such an overwhelming force.

But as long as people perpetuate the mistrust and violent solutions this **Filtered** will continue.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:that's where your wrong, Israelis are NOT surrounded by people that want to kill them, the Zionist mass murdering pigs in control of israel are the Muslims enemy, NOT the the Jewish orthodox who simply want to co-exist with the Muslim nations.

AssAsinX wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:that's where your wrong, Israelis are NOT surrounded by people that want to kill them, the Zionist mass murdering pigs in control of israel are the Muslims enemy, NOT the the Jewish orthodox who simply want to co-exist with the Muslim nations.

after all that has happened, i dont think countries such as iran, iraq, egypt, ethiopia would want the jews in middle east.

take gulf war for example.. or Suddam Hussein.. its happened few times.. it will keep going until middle east is ruled by one religion..

and obviously that wont happen till USA is supporting isreal so you can say in a way that isreal will not be removed from middle east..

Mister Sandman wrote:

AssAsinX wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:that's where your wrong, Israelis are NOT surrounded by people that want to kill them, the Zionist mass murdering pigs in control of israel are the Muslims enemy, NOT the the Jewish orthodox who simply want to co-exist with the Muslim nations.

after all that has happened, i dont think countries such as iran, iraq, egypt, ethiopia would want the jews in middle east.

take gulf war for example.. or Suddam Hussein.. its happened few times.. it will keep going until middle east is ruled by one religion..

and obviously that wont happen till USA is supporting isreal so you can say in a way that isreal will not be removed from middle east..

Well, as egypt being on israels side. So i dont think Egyptians care.

Palestine should simply disperse. In one way or another.

Mister Sandman wrote:

Patty Hughes wrote:Israel deserves to exist, WWI and WWII gave tons of nations their right to chose to exist because of racial lines. So why should the one group that's been beaten to death by history be denied the right to their place of origin?

Pretty Much Sums it up.

Comador wrote:it should read ...."should the state of palestine be allowed to exist..." NO

IF Israel would put me in charge I would wipe out every palestine that did not surrender and continue on any other peoples or groups ( muslims terrorist ) that would support the destruction of my country ..........


to bad the muslims dont stand up against their fellow muslims that are terrorist then maybe there would be more peace every where


come to my neighbor hood and see what happens

And so does this.




[spoiler]Now for unrelated real-estate, or land ownership arguments. The people who claim that 80% of land is owned by royalty. Are by technicality, correct.

You must understand real is an old term for Royal. Thus, "real" estate is "Royal" estate.

One says "But I own my land, ive paid off any debts on the land."

True, you live on the land, but you cannot, technically pay off debts on the land. There is always going to be tax, there is always going to be the term used is rates.

And, the people who control the money supply control you and inadvertently control all your assets. It is a modern type of royalty.

By the term royalty I don't necessary kings and queens, but some do, to this day, completely control the countries or at least 80% land.

Someone mentioned if royalty controlled 80% of the land 20% of land would be only available for normal populous. But as I stated before, by technicality, your always paying for the land and thus, never owning.

The only way to truly own your land is, Registering your land to your government that your land is a "separate identity" and thus a different country.

But for that case to happen you need to extremely rich, and be able to fund the services that you would need. Without being reliant on another country. That way you can become a king. [/spoiler]

Mister Sandman wrote:

AssAsinX wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:that's where your wrong, Israelis are NOT surrounded by people that want to kill them, the Zionist mass murdering pigs in control of israel are the Muslims enemy, NOT the the Jewish orthodox who simply want to co-exist with the Muslim nations.

after all that has happened, i dont think countries such as iran, iraq, egypt, ethiopia would want the jews in middle east.

take gulf war for example.. or Suddam Hussein.. its happened few times.. it will keep going until middle east is ruled by one religion..

and obviously that wont happen till USA is supporting isreal so you can say in a way that isreal will not be removed from middle east..

Well, as egypt being on israels side. So i dont think Egyptians care.

Palestine should simply disperse. In one way or another.

Deaths_Rider wrote:

Mister Sandman wrote:"Palestine should simply disperse. In one way or another. "
Disperse as in leaving the lands which are not rightfully theirs.

why is the country of PLAISTINE not rightfull the land of the PLASTINIANS

i really would like to see your answer on this one sandman it will be a new level of faulty logic and reason for me to observe

The country of Palestine is made of un-owned land. Simply put. It belongs to Israel by right. If they didnt fight Israel , they would have nothing to fear. The Palestinians who are fighting, are, infact, terrorists. Not to forget the biggest terrorist of all being the United States of America.

Also, even if Israel took over "Palestine" I dont care. Its not like America or any other empire/state has tried, by force, to take land/resources.

There are many reasons to war, most of them being the profits.


Let me point out that Israel has tried to solve this diplomatically, but all diplomacy has failed. Egypt even backs Israel.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:disperse as in what...jump in the sea (assuming those Palestinians living inland would be allowed by the IDF to get to the sea without being shot) , immigrate, jump the boarders into the surrounding country's, die, any of the above will do, what????

define "disperse" please.