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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:18 pm
by MackTheKnife
Anonymous wrote:and i heard that the miners and the lifters don't count as UU.
so that's a lose of like 100 k UU
that's a lot.
so i can beter wait a week or so to ascend??
Search next time, miners and lifers count as trained units for APP, and count as UU for the minimum UU required.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:23 am
by MackTheKnife
Any news yet? This is a major problem. I keep bumping this until we get some kind of official response.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:52 am
by Jimmy Kay
I want to know if I can ascend tomorow .... so I'm waiting 4 a reply as well
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:30 pm
by Rukia
i'll bump as well ^_^
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:32 pm
by MackTheKnife
hump
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:56 pm
by ÃÐØÑΧ
still not working, my mate Ðèspèratè Ðañ just ascended and only had -3mins ppt on main and had 9,386 APP which are not showing on his ascended account and hes also still a messiah of the indu.
all he got was... ( copyed from msm )
You raise up your head
And you ask, is this where it is?
And somebody points to you and says
It's his
And you say, what’s mine?
And somebody else says, where what is?
And you say, oh my god
Am I here all alone?
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, mister jones?
this needs fixing and fast as i want to reascend soon but don't want the same happening to me that i now know as happend to Ðèspèratè Ðañ and kirklandkie9292 who started this thread some time ago.
fix as soon as poss please
ascention bug
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:21 pm
by buster
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:20 pm
by MackTheKnife
ÃÐØÑΧ wrote:still not working, my mate þrø Têçh just ascended and only had -3mins ppt on main and had 9,386 APP which are not showing on his ascended account and hes also still a messiah of the indu.
all he got was... ( copyed from msm )
You raise up your head
And you ask, is this where it is?
And somebody points to you and says
It's his
And you say, what’s mine?
And somebody else says, where what is?
And you say, oh my god
Am I here all alone?
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, mister jones?
Hmmn, that first part is different to what I remember it a while ago.
ascention bug
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:55 pm
by buster
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:26 am
by Guest
this is stupid this has been here for 20 days and forum hasnt posted anything about it and it is oviouly still goin on.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:00 am
by Jimmy Kay
I have succesfully ascended today ... for my first time ... I have ppt in main and ascension and my ascension points on ascension ...
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:51 am
by daivahataka
Shizune wrote:i hab that ascension problem now. -1 ppt, -1 market trades this week and didn't even do a single market trade or ppt. no ____ of the ajna under my name only nanotimaster as race. lost 57k uu and 1.17bil from not being under the ss/ppt that usually comes with the ascension. only under ppt for 2 minutes as -2 minutes >.< anyone help me? i sent the info off to psi and admin.
Legoless wrote:Same happened to me and I ascended today for the first time. I cannot enter ascended server and I dont have Prior text near my name. My account was bugged so everything was 0 Naquadah, no weapon names or anything, so I changed race to fix this, but I lost many UU (around 400k) in the process.

I hope admin can fix this and return UU.
MackTheKnife wrote:Can we get a mod onto this ASAP. This is a core element of the game, effecting accounts on 2 servers, even if it's fixed, no confirmation means that peopls accounts are being put on hold essentially, naq wasted, plans screwed up, and this appears to be still happeing (check the largest naq hits), 100 billion and 500k uu lost after a PPT lasted 5 mins.
This must be fixed ASAP.
All I have to say is that it serves people right for using the half-hearted ascention loophole. I don't see any real reason for a post ascention PPT on your reset main account as:
(a) unlike registering ascending is an instant process so you're definitely able to log in.
(b) the state the reset account will be in will make it worthless to any potential attacker, the only exceptions would be where people have stashed UU/naq before ascending because they're too lazy to put in the effort of ascending again from scratch, in which case: Ha!HA!
So with an incredibly slim chance of anyone being bothered to attack you before you can log back into your main A/C why do you need the PPT?
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:02 am
by MackTheKnife
daivahataka wrote:All I have to say is that it serves people right for using the half-hearted ascention loophole. I don't see any real reason for a post ascention PPT on your reset main account as:
(a) unlike registering ascending is an instant process so you're definitely able to log in.
(b) the state the reset account will be in will make it worthless to any potential attacker, the only exceptions would be where people have stashed UU/naq before ascending because they're too lazy to put in the effort of ascending again from scratch, in which case: Ha!HA!
So with an incredibly slim chance of anyone being bothered to attack you before you can log back into your main A/C why do you need the PPT?
Well, my post was'nt me, it was someone else.
Half Hearted? there are MINIMUM requirements for a reason, and banning "sending stuff away" is unworkable and would kill ascension, because no-one would do it.
This happened from the beginning, so if they wanted to stop it, the admins would have. Why should I have to lose everything in main, when those who have ascended 6 times already did'nt?
Are you saying you will be reascending every time with a totally wiped account? Good luck ascending another couple of times in the next 5 months. Unless you have good help, which is the same as doing this anyway.
We need a PPT for the very purpose of getting back our naq and UU we have sent away (legally I might add) before we ascend. If I choose to have more naq or UU, to help me rebuild, that's my choice alone, not yours. If you chose to start over again, then that's your choice, but do not belittle my choice because you think it's "half hearted". I don't think i'm "lazy", I don't want all of the work I've put into for 6 months being flushed down the drain unneccsarrily.
Do you have officers? A commander? An alliance? If you do, then you are just doing the same thing as what we do with naq and UU, it just might take slightly longer. Only if you start completely wiped from scratch, and get no help can you claim to be any different.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:52 am
by daivahataka
MackTheKnife wrote:
Well, my post was'nt me, it was someone else.
Half Hearted? there are MINIMUM requirements for a reason, and banning "sending stuff away" is unworkable and would kill ascension, because no-one would do it.
I'd still do it. Surely your ego can stand being outside the top rankings in a video game for longer than you need to if it means going the whole hog and not taking short cuts? Would it not be something of greater merit to have put in the full effort to do it as originally intended?
MackTheKnife wrote:This happened from the beginning, so if they wanted to stop it, the admins would have. Why should I have to lose everything in main, when those who have ascended 6 times already did'nt?
When Europeans first began to settle in America it was a free for all, grab whatever land you can keep situation, does this mean they should've kept that system indefinitely?
MackTheKnife wrote:Are you saying you will be reascending every time with a totally wiped account? Good luck ascending another couple of times in the next 5 months. Unless you have good help, which is the same as doing this anyway.
Yep, done it once so far and only 2-3weeks before I do it again.
MackTheKnife wrote:We need a PPT for the very purpose of getting back our naq and UU we have sent away (legally I might add) before we ascend. If I choose to have more naq or UU, to help me rebuild, that's my choice alone, not yours. If you chose to start over again, then that's your choice, but do not belittle my choice because you think it's "half hearted". I don't think i'm "lazy", I don't want all of the work I've put into for 6 months being flushed down the drain unneccsarrily.
Gee if that last sentence isn't a round-about way of saying "I'm too lazy to restart from scratch" I don't know what is.
MackTheKnife wrote:Do you have officers? A commander? An alliance? If you do, then you are just doing the same thing as what we do with naq and UU, it just might take slightly longer. Only if you start completely wiped from scratch, and get no help can you claim to be any different.
1 officer who adds less than 110 UP per day in exchange for >3mil per turn, more of a hindrance than a help (he was on vacation mode for most of the time since the reset) but he was my officer before I ascended so I'm cool with it. No commander (never had one) & no alliance (again never had one) so sorry to burst your bubble but I can claim to be completely different!
Anyway, I'll leave you to keep playing games on easy mode while I pick the harder difficulty settings.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:58 am
by Shizune-sama
(a) unlike registering ascending is an instant process so you're definitely able to log in.
well, its supposed to be instant but i still haven't gotten the e-mail cuz of the bug
(b) the state the reset account will be in will make it worthless to any potential attacker, the only exceptions would be where people have stashed UU/naq before ascending because they're too lazy to put in the effort of ascending again from scratch, in which case: Ha!HA!
same as Mack said. u can't change the rules for the later ppl in favor of letting the previous ppl off. either descend the previous ppl or let the transfers happen
This only happened before i got all my stuff transfered over. u try starting sgw as a new account w/out a ppt