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do not think beta would test this one accurately. and i am using the 'it is better than before any updates' theory now
so we're already in the plus -- not its just a matter of degrees.
but yes, what you suggest is generally smarter

Juliette wrote:Just saying.. it might be a smoother ride if you pulled up Beta to have this one tested for a while and use the statistics you get from there to decide on the exact figures?

It's a good idea. But this trial-and-error might not be the most effective way of getting the final solution to this one in.

why not just remove it, most of the times it get abused

ppl builds huge strikes and do like 20 hits farming then repairing 1t worth for few b. also wit just one repair one prevents a succesfull mass instead of pulling out resources to repair

Forum wrote:ok - have gone 5/50 on a bit more thought...
better than 2/60 ... still should not cause the game to create only defenses...
is that too many def repairs ? too few attack? Too many attack?
thoughts on the "*RIGHT*" numbers can be discussed. I am more prone to listening to logical arguments and ideas than 'sky is falling' type ones

heh I actually was talking in MSN that 4 for all weapons would seem better then 2 but 5/50 seems like a good balance I am for that I wasnt gonna say anything cause you already came and did changes after listening to people and have done quite a bit of work, overall the changes are good. I don't care for the 4x3hr PPT cause its not really to much a change, I would rather see it something like.. 12x1hr PPT but a max on 1 or 2 hours of alliance PPT a day, no more no less.

Forum wrote:do not think beta would test this one accurately. and i am using the 'it is better than before any updates' theory now
so we're already in the plus -- not its just a matter of degrees.
but yes, what you suggest is generally smarter

Long as the updates/changes don't go radical I think its fine to update/change in main with the mindset that we remain open to tweaking as needed, if needed.

I would be happy with 5 to 30. If u add the phase going up.
and dont forget about the issue with alliance ppt.

I think the simplest and fairest solution would have been to remove them both or equally reduce:

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 240
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 6

or

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 120
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 4

Robe wrote:I think the simplest and fairest solution would have been to remove them both or equally reduce:

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 240
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 6

or

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 120
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 4

+1
just dont forget about phasing

Robe wrote:I think the simplest and fairest solution would have been to remove them both or equally reduce:
Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 120
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 4

This is a good solution i think

Robe wrote:I think the simplest and fairest solution would have been to remove them both or equally reduce:

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 240
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 6

or

Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 120
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 4

I agree this is a great perception to take, and it certainly removes complications, however limitation for strike weapons is probably the best avenue to take (due to abuse from farmers), out of the two I like the bottom choice the best. +1 for a great suggestion

~LordRse~ wrote:

Robe wrote:I think the simplest and fairest solution would have been to remove them both or equally reduce:
Alliance Repair 480 per day -> 120
Alliance PPT 12 per week -> 4

This is a good solution i think

What about phasing? If you have 120 repairs a day and phase at every second repair, you'll have 60 turns of phasing coverage. 60 turns of phasing coverage on a day with 48 turns means a solid shield defending you from anyone who'd attack you. Simply have a few minor players provide rota cover fire and hit you with low strikes, phasing you continuously without you taking damage (and whatever damage you take, is repaired by the AR) .. can be invincible.

At 50 AR per day, at least you won't be able to last the whole day relying on AR and phasing.

50x alliance def repairs per day

48x turns per day

= more than 1 alliance repair per turn

Only takes 1 alliance repair to block a massing and make someone phase before they are massed

= NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WHOLE UPDATE POINTLESS


I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

MEZZANINE wrote:I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

This is what im trying to get in admins mind.

MEZZANINE wrote:50x alliance def repairs per day

48x turns per day

= more than 1 alliance repair per turn

Only takes 1 alliance repair to block a massing and make someone phase before they are massed

= NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WHOLE UPDATE POINTLESS


I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

wouldnt 1 per turn only block a massing on one person in that alliance? what about the others?? unless multiple people were being hit...but still there are several in an alliance...
correct me if my logic is off please?

Iƒrit wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:50x alliance def repairs per day

48x turns per day

= more than 1 alliance repair per turn

Only takes 1 alliance repair to block a massing and make someone phase before they are massed

= NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WHOLE UPDATE POINTLESS


I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

wouldnt 1 per turn only block a massing on one person in that alliance? what about the others?? unless multiple people were being hit...but still there are several in an alliance...
correct me if my logic is off please?

If it's just 1 person doing the massing and they can stay online for several hours maybe

What about the teamwork we all miss from before alliance repairs/PPTs when several people attack all at once and take down an alliance, multiple simultaneous massings can all be blocked in one alliance repair.

Maybe it's just nostalgia but I want the game as it was before alliance repairs/PPTs, when a team of several real players couldnt be blocked by any noob on an alliance function rota.

MEZZANINE wrote:

Iƒrit wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:50x alliance def repairs per day

48x turns per day

= more than 1 alliance repair per turn

Only takes 1 alliance repair to block a massing and make someone phase before they are massed

= NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WHOLE UPDATE POINTLESS


I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

wouldnt 1 per turn only block a massing on one person in that alliance? what about the others?? unless multiple people were being hit...but still there are several in an alliance...
correct me if my logic is off please?

If it's just 1 person doing the massing and they can stay online for several hours maybe

What about the teamwork we all miss from before alliance repairs/PPTs when several people attack all at once and take down an alliance, multiple simultaneous massings can all be blocked in one alliance repair.

Maybe it's just nostalgia but I want the game as it was before alliance repairs/PPTs, when a team of several real players couldnt be blocked by any noob on an alliance function rota.

I don't dismiss that thought, but remember those days 1 noob could take down an entire alliance himself

MEZZANINE wrote:

Iƒrit wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:50x alliance def repairs per day

48x turns per day

= more than 1 alliance repair per turn

Only takes 1 alliance repair to block a massing and make someone phase before they are massed

= NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND WHOLE UPDATE POINTLESS


I thought this update was meant to bring back massing so all players can fight not just the few highest coverts sabbing everyone else, guess I was wrong

wouldnt 1 per turn only block a massing on one person in that alliance? what about the others?? unless multiple people were being hit...but still there are several in an alliance...
correct me if my logic is off please?

If it's just 1 person doing the massing and they can stay online for several hours maybe

What about the teamwork we all miss from before alliance repairs/PPTs when several people attack all at once and take down an alliance, multiple simultaneous massings can all be blocked in one alliance repair.

Maybe it's just nostalgia but I want the game as it was before alliance repairs/PPTs, when a team of several real players couldnt be blocked by any noob on an alliance function rota.

couldnt have said it better A+