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HellSinG wrote:

Rabbid Thom wrote:but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed

other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16



in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)

VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth

Topic name: "For Everyone Fenrir Scammed".

Why didnt VK even bother posting about he being scammed ? How does roket know that its VK's account anyways ? And how do u know, that he hasnt scammed somebody else meanwhile, and that person didnt bothered to post on the forum just like VK...

P.s: He got scammed for 80 tril, i got for 120 tril lol... the account is up for sale, the $ will bring resources, thats it i guess.

first off you didn't give him time to even pay back before reported him for it you did a contract where he basically defulted on it secondly you scammed so thats forfeit

and Vintage King (VK) who paid for an account but the account was sold to to someone else is owed an account

how do i know no one else was no one did like i said earlier you don't but research only point to VK so fenrir only owes one account and that account is in rokets possession and so with one account owed it should go to VK even though it isn't the actual account he paid for but none the less is the only account there is.

Fenrir~ wrote:only guy i scammed was vintage viking that was 80 trills

ok not to get picky or anything it was 85t

Rabbid Thom wrote:

HellSinG wrote:

Rabbid Thom wrote:but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed

other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16



in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)

VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth

Topic name: "For Everyone Fenrir Scammed".

Why didnt VK even bother posting about he being scammed ? How does roket know that its VK's account anyways ? And how do u know, that he hasnt scammed somebody else meanwhile, and that person didnt bothered to post on the forum just like VK...

P.s: He got scammed for 80 tril, i got for 120 tril lol... the account is up for sale, the $ will bring resources, thats it i guess.

first off you didn't give him time to even pay back before reported him for it you did a contract where he basically defulted on it secondly you scammed so thats forfeit

and Vintage King (VK) who paid for an account but the account was sold to to someone else is owed an account

how do i know no one else was no one did like i said earlier you don't but research only point to VK so fenrir only owes one account and that account is in rokets possession and so with one account owed it should go to VK even though it isn't the actual account he paid for but none the less is the only account there is.

the account i curently have is better then that account so i would not accept that but what im getting at from that is that the account is mine to sell so everything the account and whats on it is rightfully mine since im "owed an account" so what your saying is that i would get my 85t and what ever the account sells for after everyone is payed off witch looks like its only me

what fenrir did was wrong on so many levels and yes i do not like that but im not going to take everything he has "worked for" im not that way all i ask for is the 85t that is rightfully mine

Rabbid Thom wrote:

HellSinG wrote:

Rabbid Thom wrote:but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed

other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16



in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)

VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth

Topic name: "For Everyone Fenrir Scammed".

Why didnt VK even bother posting about he being scammed ? How does roket know that its VK's account anyways ? And how do u know, that he hasnt scammed somebody else meanwhile, and that person didnt bothered to post on the forum just like VK...

P.s: He got scammed for 80 tril, i got for 120 tril lol... the account is up for sale, the $ will bring resources, thats it i guess.

first off you didn't give him time to even pay back before reported him for it you did a contract where he basically defulted on it secondly you scammed so thats forfeit

and Vintage King (VK) who paid for an account but the account was sold to to someone else is owed an account

how do i know no one else was no one did like i said earlier you don't but research only point to VK so fenrir only owes one account and that account is in rokets possession and so with one account owed it should go to VK even though it isn't the actual account he paid for but none the less is the only account there is.

You can't prove that it was his account... And i didnt break any terms, he sold his account to Tom... after i saw that, i posted about him scamming me. What are u trying to pull of ? Get your facts straight, i want my naq back as VK does, and hopefully we will boath get full repayment.

Rekoj Vintage King 150,000,000 Untrained 1 Turns May 02, 2012, 2:38 pm Open (expires May 04, 2012, 2:38 pm ).

Thats VK payed for plus 5Trill for compinsation I guess lol

HellSing I am still up in the air about paying you back as your a past scammer, but as of now I'm looking to sell the rest to try and get you yours back too (maybe) again I have to think about this

(ahh the problem with being a vigilante everyone has different ideas for you to do)

Rekoj Vintage King 150,000,000 Untrained 1 Turns May 02, 2012, 2:38 pm Completed.

i have been payed off

i have been told that the account will need to be sold to pay off hellsing

Vintage King wrote:Rekoj Vintage King 150,000,000 Untrained 1 Turns May 02, 2012, 2:38 pm Completed.

i have been payed off

i have been told that the account will need to be sold to pay off hellsing

That is not necissarilly true, I am unsure what to do with the account to be honest but I do know I am up in the air about HellSing or not I need to do more research and need to talk to more people and listen to more ideas before I come up with a final stance on the account but VK has been payed back on to hte next episode of this show that has become a soap opera

HellSinG wrote:

Rabbid Thom wrote:

HellSinG wrote:

Rabbid Thom wrote:but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed

other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16



in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)

VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth

Topic name: "For Everyone Fenrir Scammed".

Why didnt VK even bother posting about he being scammed ? How does roket know that its VK's account anyways ? And how do u know, that he hasnt scammed somebody else meanwhile, and that person didnt bothered to post on the forum just like VK...

P.s: He got scammed for 80 tril, i got for 120 tril lol... the account is up for sale, the $ will bring resources, thats it i guess.

first off you didn't give him time to even pay back before reported him for it you did a contract where he basically defulted on it secondly you scammed so thats forfeit

and Vintage King (VK) who paid for an account but the account was sold to to someone else is owed an account

how do i know no one else was no one did like i said earlier you don't but research only point to VK so fenrir only owes one account and that account is in rokets possession and so with one account owed it should go to VK even though it isn't the actual account he paid for but none the less is the only account there is.

You can't prove that it was his account...¹ And i didnt break any terms, he sold his account to Tom... after i saw that, i posted about him scamming me². What are u trying to pull of ? Get your facts straight, i want my naq back as VK does, and hopefully we will boath get full repayment.

¹ go read this viewtopic.php?f=38&t=190131 Rodash is fenrir theres the account im on about

² yours viewtopic.php?f=38&t=190879 note yours is an entire month later and i point you to this quote as the other thread has been dumped
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Cersei Lannister wrote:Hellsing, you arrange loans for a month, right? You first posted about your loans March 5th.

Seeing as it is now March 16th, how could Fenrir have defaulted on you already? Did you loan to him earlier? Or am I missing something? Logic would say that if he got his loan on the 5th, he would have until the 5th of April to repay his debt.. which is quite a few days from now.


I must be blind, but I do not see any scamming, here. So, where is your proof of this alleged 'scam'?

Right now, it might as well be the opposite. (i.e. you scamming him through this thread and public outrage)

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note you loaned him on the 5thmarch reported him on the 15th march the account sold to tom was reported 14th February
so you loaned him after the account was already sold??? and then was like oh noooo you sent naq to an account that didn't belong to the person so basically you made an error and therefore were not scammed

Bums me out that you scammed no matter the reason Roket.

That being said I can understand why you did.

The very idea of scamming for the well being of others is a load of manure, it is a power trip simply put. Roket you scammed for what could be argued are the right reasons, but in doing so you not only lowered yourself to the level of a scammer for what? The resources of a text based game? A man only has two things in this world his word and his balls; you broke your own word just to
get back" at some one who is not worth the time and effort you put into this.

With that all being said giving the resources back to those who got scammed sure, that is the most responsible thing to do, but I highly doubt that was what was going through your mind when you were scamming him, my guess is it went a little something like: hmm ya know what I think I am gonna give this scammer a taste of his own medicine lulz haha gotcha....dang what did I just do hmm I know *posts topic* ahhh conscience clear now....

Of course this is all mere conjecture seeing how its real simple to prevent being scammed in the first place, always be aware of who you are trading with, background check on forums, talk to other people who traded with said person, or stick to the same few people that you have traded with in the past and avoid leaving that circle.


I know it absolutely stinks getting scammed, and the fact there is no way to recoup the losses you have had from being scammed makes it doubly annoying but since it has been considered a valid tactic by the games admin...There is nothing anyone can say or do to stop it, just try to avoid putting yourself in that situation.


Roket at the moment I have very little respect for you, once people get their resources back and the account goes back where it belongs I might reconsider, but I do not agree with what you did, dropping yourself to this level is abhorrent and you ARE better man, you always have been. I think you are going to spend a long time recovering from this, although I don't see you being black listed as a trader for it, I do see people being a bit more wary around you and trading a little less freely because of your now checkered history.



Ang

DING DING DING wrong



although I do admit the thought of how this was going to turn out made me HAVE to do it, not my popularity not my rep but the "drama" lol knew it was going to cause a controversy (a nice stur up) , But I also honestly thought about it once I saw that VK got scammed, I sat on the idea for a day or so and said meh it's worth it to repay VK and those who got scammed, I will return the account to Fenrir if that is all he ripped off is VK but I still stand that I know how it feels to get scammed and if I can help them I will, as I've said 100 times it felt good to do and the way VK has thanked me still made it worth it

So the tables got turned. Why does everyone feel the need to be all righteous about it? And this garbage about losing a friendship with Roket because of this? Clarkey...what a silly reason for getting so angry. I honestly think every flamer here is more incensed about Roket's actions than Fenrir himself. There was no malice behind what Roket did.

Everyone chill. Let it go.

I didn't read all seven pages because I'm lazy. That being said I believe fernier or whatever his name is got what was coming to him and that in scamming a scamming it does not lower you to their level. If anything it is punishing them for what wrong they did. So even though I don't like you roket I will still say you did a good job.

Scam as many people as you want Fenrir..person. If they're A) stupid enough to let themselves actually GET scammed then no objections will be raised from me and B) if they're *insert any number of insulting words* to spend real money on the game and then get scammed doing so, all the better! Play a free game the free way. Spend cash needlessly, run this risk and don't cry when it happens.

For reaction to people being scammed of their hard worked for resources see back to A).

Well every argument that could be had has been had, I ask all Forgotten Prospects to stop posting in this thread, I think all of the arguments to every single one of these questions is bullocks.. I have never been scammed, but was in the room when VK trusted Rodach/Fenrir to do a trade and he got strewed.. In return Fenrir then got strewed...

Now since there is no policing this matter I hereby say let the jerks be jerks and so on. I just do not have the patience to deal with any stupid recourse from anyone for what Roket did, nor will I take any.. So please FP stay out of this topic it is for the best.. No-one wants to come fist to cuffs over something so stupid..

on a side note if anyone in RL stole my money and I found them my god a good ole passionate butt whooping would be giving.. with that said I wont be posting anymore in this topic...

Thanks

On behalf of Forgotten Prospects Peace to all and Love to Most,
~L