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bina wrote:

Eelyzabth wrote:

bina wrote:

akbar wrote:you can not leave a DC/DDE war and hide under OE alliance tag... not while I still have a war setting and I was in the first battles....

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you should ask permission to leave a non family alliance at war with DDE first Girl

honey we were going to be massed anyway if we left
i wasnt happy at the DDE at the time, activity had dropped into the toilet, i didnt like being told that i would have to use my ppt at a certain time and when JT wouldnt bother answering one simple question while being online and tlking to other people... i know im not a great player with an amazing account but hell im more than willing to learn it kinda makes you feel pissed off

particularly after we surrendered the first time and you guys still massed us... its not like we were hitting you after all that i can understand

I may have missed something there, can't remember seeing a surrender, although I do tend to have to disappear quite often due to rl commitments, may have been during the time i was moving house etc...

its quite likely if there was a surrender and then it all escalated gain, it would be because of forum dramas, it usually is...hohum

it was before this last war started we gave back the alliance made an apology and everything else

Gave back the alliance? ...the alliance ID was 6406 ....its gone.
There was an apology made tho.

pc wrote:

bina wrote:

Eelyzabth wrote:

bina wrote:

akbar wrote:you can not leave a DC/DDE war and hide under OE alliance tag... not while I still have a war setting and I was in the first battles....

22:39 Bina 0 Naquadah stolen 15 54,897 0 32,330,383,255,800 6 details

you should ask permission to leave a non family alliance at war with DDE first Girl

honey we were going to be massed anyway if we left
i wasnt happy at the DDE at the time, activity had dropped into the toilet, i didnt like being told that i would have to use my ppt at a certain time and when JT wouldnt bother answering one simple question while being online and tlking to other people... i know im not a great player with an amazing account but hell im more than willing to learn it kinda makes you feel pissed off

particularly after we surrendered the first time and you guys still massed us... its not like we were hitting you after all that i can understand

I may have missed something there, can't remember seeing a surrender, although I do tend to have to disappear quite often due to rl commitments, may have been during the time i was moving house etc...

its quite likely if there was a surrender and then it all escalated gain, it would be because of forum dramas, it usually is...hohum

it was before this last war started we gave back the alliance made an apology and everything else

Gave back the alliance? ...the alliance ID was 6406 ....its gone.
There was an apology made tho.

They actually gave back the alliance..but this issue is due to them being massed by a couple of members so Marshall got diarrhea of the mouth and declared war on DDE..never did mass the ones that massed you..oh wait, running to OE for that.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

Rodwolf is correct, your sources are poor on this occasion Lion, no rains of castamere for you.

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

ah i remember slayer and me talking about alpha becoming independant when i was HC of Ricos back then we also said we would keep alpha good allies...then slayer left

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

Objection !!!!

Relevance, your honor ?



Aaaanywaysz instead of bickering on past events and relations ... why not focus on the times ahead.

*Stuffs a mic in his godly face*

ETL, you furry creature from the alleviated planes ... tell me .. do you think your Omegan posse can best brutality that is called DDE ? Or, do you need more alliances involved ?

It seems a bit of an hot item I see, from both sides, -questions rising on everyone's tongues; who's picking what side.
I for one would very much support the notion of the two most known warring empires in the history of Gatewars, -that they would battle it out in an encounter for supremacy.

Any takes on that, ETL ?

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him.

That's true, for honestly saying they did nothing at all except talk big in OE HC. Others had the same feeling but just didn't dare to say that in the open. Said it blunt, but sometimes thats needed to get things going again.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote: As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

MaYHeM was created outside OE, we joined OE as independant alliance and left it as independant alliance. So applying your own logic here(no problem with individuals leaving), I don't see where mH were traitors or why JT couldnt offer mH a spot in DDE just to keep things (FUALL) togheter.

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him.

That's true, for honestly saying they did nothing at all except talk big in OE HC. Others had the same feeling but just didn't dare to say that in the open. Said it blunt, but sometimes thats needed to get things going again.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote: As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

MaYHeM was created outside OE, we joined OE as independant alliance and left it as independant alliance. So applying your own logic here(no problem with individuals leaving), I don't see where mH were traitors or why JT couldnt offer mH a spot in DDE just to keep things (FUALL) togheter.

Complaining is one thing..you threatened to mass them. Where did I say I considered Mayhem traitors? My point was that there should have been no 'invitation' in the first place.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

thats YOUR BOOK..in case somebody hasnt smacked you with a dose of reality lemm be the one..YOU go by whats in YOUR BOOK. Nobody else does. You forget 1 thing mister..in the time when OE was floundering (maybe too harsh a word but there it is) in the server war..it was good ole JT and Rodwolf's Mayhem monsters that dug in deep dawg..and Ill say this, if it werent for us keeping pace with TA Massers ya'll would have been done then. Thats then this is now, fact is we were busting ass to keep FUALL intact, you werent, and in the final analysis you still let it get **Filtered**.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

thats YOUR BOOK..in case somebody hasnt smacked you with a dose of reality lemm be the one..YOU go by whats in YOUR BOOK. Nobody else does. You forget 1 thing mister..in the time when OE was floundering (maybe too harsh a word but there it is) in the server war..it was good ole JT and Rodwolf's Mayhem monsters that dug in deep dawg..and Ill say this, if it werent for us keeping pace with TA Massers ya'll would have been done then. Thats then this is now, fact is we were busting ass to keep FUALL intact, you werent, and in the final analysis you still let it get **Filtered**.

yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

thats YOUR BOOK..in case somebody hasnt smacked you with a dose of reality lemm be the one..YOU go by whats in YOUR BOOK. Nobody else does. You forget 1 thing mister..in the time when OE was floundering (maybe too harsh a word but there it is) in the server war..it was good ole JT and Rodwolf's Mayhem monsters that dug in deep dawg..and Ill say this, if it werent for us keeping pace with TA Massers ya'll would have been done then. Thats then this is now, fact is we were busting ass to keep FUALL intact, you werent, and in the final analysis you still let it get **Filtered**.

yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

I heard that's something that comes with the territory of high treason.

What have you done Duck?!


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