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George Hazard wrote:

Juliette wrote:Your amusing dislike for Jason does not make him wrong.

as for you poppet.

I am fully aware that Jason had you and Z in a private channel talking about all of this literally at the same time he and I were talking on IRC and he decided to ban me.

The ban took a while in coming. You had your 2 weeks to rage and vent, and you continued well beyond it. You burned yourself.

George Hazard wrote:Dislike has nothing to do with anything. He made stupid decisions in the heat of the moment, whilst putzing around with one of the people the issue was about instead of maintaining impartiality as THE LEADER.

You and Earendil actively tried to provoke Jason into taking action by attempting to shut him out, by redefining your role as admins.. indeed, by rewriting the entire concept of adminship - a thread I believe you missed in your leak-forum?

George Hazard wrote:Jason has always played favorites, he does it here and he does it in-game.
And you know what, its impossible for people to not have a favorite. Its simply the way it is, every one has a favorite. Every parent a favorite child, every person a favorite friend. You can deny it all you want but deep down its the truth.

My beef with Jason is his inability to make decisions against his friends.
That is why Z got away with what he did. Daddy always stepped in to make it go away.

Psht. Hardly realistic. Zeratul got torched in conversations as well. Less in public, fair enough. I see the point you are trying to make.

George Hazard wrote:It was one of the last things I said to jason, that he needed to finally get off his ass and make a god damned decision because this "lets ignore it and hope it goes away" **Filtered** of his has never once worked. I told him I didn't care if it ended well or not for me, so long as he finally grew a pair and did something.

I have seen far lesser actions punished more severely than stuff Jason has let his friends get away with over the year (not just Z) and I have seen him go to great lengths to do things for friends just the same.

Mr. Almighty needs to start being impartial. Friends is one thing, but when you are the boss it needs to be the primary thought process.

Fair enough.

George Hazard wrote:

Juliette wrote:[spoiler]Ah, but the outside observers in such situations are about as reliable an observer as an Israeli in an Iranian nuclear testing facility. (That is, they see what they want to see; which is what everyone hopes they will not see.)

You are looking in on processes of which you only see marginal aspects, and you base your dislike of their work ethics on that minimal reliable information you get; some (worthless bits) of which is leaked intelligence, other bits are conjecture by parties of unequal understanding..


All in all, it is your opinion, and you have every right to have it. We will just agree to disagree on the matter, trivial as it is.[/spoiler]

Wrong.

The information that has been "leaked" is not minimal. Nor is it in any way marginal.
That is ALL that went on. You know it too, so you can take your defense tactic and try another one.

Nah, you selected a few threads that would work to your advantage in trying to create a public outrage, ignored countless others.. Pick and choose, is what you did. Or are you telling me you actually have EVERY thread from the admin section saved? (That would be interesting, as there are a few minor bits and pieces missing from the ones that are left.)

George Hazard wrote:And lets play semantics here, its not leaked. Those threads no longer exist.

Hahaha! Nice try. They do still exist. *grin* They are just .. less lengthy. So your own posts (and the ones by my old friend Earendil) are gone. The rest still remains. Hole-y threads, but they do still exist.

Yeah, well. We agreed on that deleting thing before. It was a bit clumsy (understandably clumsy though) and way too much at once (less understandable).

xDaku wrote:Not necessarily. A consumer uses an apple product, finds an inconsistency, complains to Apple about it just to have their access to this product shut down.

Work ethic is always judged by outsiders/consumers. Jason sucks at keeping his user base happy. Jason sucks at setting a fair system over an easy system. This is all stuff that's been proven time and time again.

His excuse before used to be "too much work irl/family". Failure to balance it out = poor work ethic. His knee jerk failure of a reaction in deleting off 3 users' years of dedication to this forum was a crap decision directly based off his lack of good work ethics.

Fair point. A little harsh, but I see where you are coming from.

George Hazard wrote:Quite honestly, deleting us isn't the issue. Or at least it shouldn't be.

Tell that to the ones who declared you a blooming martyr.

George Hazard wrote: The issue was the careless destruction of what the majority of those posts were, not who made them.
I know for a fact only 5k of mine were in the temple... assume 5-8k were spam elsewhere and you have about 12k non-useless posts now missing just from me alone.

Nothing that was destroyed cannot be rebuilt. It is a matter of whether it should be restored, or not.
But again.. burning the Library of Alexandria was a shame. This is somewhat comparable within the context of this forum.

Juliette wrote:

George Hazard wrote:Dislike has nothing to do with anything. He made stupid decisions in the heat of the moment, whilst putzing around with one of the people the issue was about instead of maintaining impartiality as THE LEADER.

You and Earendil actively tried to provoke Jason into taking action by attempting to shut him out, by redefining your role as admins.. indeed, by rewriting the entire concept of adminship - a thread I believe you missed in your leak-forum?

Excuse me?
What the **Filtered** are you talking about?

The ONLY thread pertaining to ANYTHING about the administration roll is the one in which we were trying to discuss the TERM ROTATION.

A thread that is on that forum. A thread that was moved to both the GM forum (for discussion) prior to my resignation and the mod forum during my little rampage.
AND that thread BEGAN while I was a GM. In **Filtered** may.

Don't you dare try to spin this around as some sort of coup. The only reason Jason would have been left out is because he can't seem to find 5 minutes a week to look at his forum because he's too busy where as the rest of us seem to be able to spend hours and hours with no issue.

And yes, those threads are non-existent. Because they are not the same threads. 2/3rds of them are missing. The admin section ones are literally just Z talking to himself now. Thats not a holey thread, its simply posts that make no sense.

rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

Actually, I am quite enjoying myself right now.
Not calling out the idiocy of the users of this forum the last few months has been difficult.
Especially when it comes to certain individuals of heightened 'talent'

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

I'm in the library for the next hour and 45 minutes till I have to leave for my third lecture of the day. So yea, I have nothing better to do atm, lol.

And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

George Hazard wrote:Excuse me?
What the **Filtered** are you talking about?

You know what I am talking about. You may consider it 'gone', and conveniently the threads may be holey now..

George Hazard wrote:The ONLY thread pertaining to ANYTHING about the administration roll is the one in which we were trying to discuss the TERM ROTATION.

Mmhm, yeah. No. That is just not true. You remember that discussion about the 2/3 admin-vote legitimacy? Exactly.

George Hazard wrote:A thread that is on that forum. A thread that was moved to both the GM forum (for discussion) prior to my resignation and the mod forum during my little rampage.
AND that thread BEGAN while I was a GM. In **Filtered** may.

Yes. That is another one. But you have that one copied, so I am not talking about that one - we both know that one is just what it is.

George Hazard wrote:Don't you dare try to spin this around as some sort of coup. The only reason Jason would have been left out is because he can't seem to find 5 minutes a week to look at his forum because he's too busy where as the rest of us seem to be able to spend hours and hours with no issue.

*grin* Dearie, if he did look 5 minutes looking at the entire alphabet, he would get blasted because he did not look at x, y and z. He can do no good. There is no way he can do what people expect him to do. So he delegates. All of it. But what would I know. *grin* I was just a simple mod.

George Hazard wrote:And yes, those threads are non-existent. Because they are not the same threads. 2/3rds of them are missing. The admin section ones are literally just Z talking to himself now. Thats not a holey thread, its simply posts that make no sense.

Ah, you mean the same way a human is not the same human after he loses a leg. Or a few skin cells. Yes, I see your point. Nice technicality.. but I will concede this one.

George Hazard wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

Actually, I am quite enjoying myself right now.
Not calling out the idiocy of the users of this forum the last few months has been difficult.
Especially when it comes to certain individuals of heightened 'talent'

*grin* Ha, something I can agree on.

xDaku wrote:And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

Wait.. was that what you were trying to do?

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

I'm in the library for the next hour and 45 minutes till I have to leave for my third lecture of the day. So yea, I have nothing better to do atm, lol.

And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

read a book, prolly more beneficial to you unless you cant read

~wolverine~ wrote:read a book, prolly more beneficial to you unless you cant read

He can read, write and think critically. He does well. He is fun to disagree with.

Juliette wrote:

George Hazard wrote:Excuse me?
What the **Filtered** are you talking about?

You know what I am talking about. You may consider it 'gone', and conveniently the threads may be holey now..

George Hazard wrote:The ONLY thread pertaining to ANYTHING about the administration roll is the one in which we were trying to discuss the TERM ROTATION.

Mmhm, yeah. No. That is just not true. You remember that discussion about the 2/3 admin-vote legitimacy? Exactly.

No?

I remember me asking if it was a rule or not shortly after I was promoted.
I asked both eary and Z. And they both said it was, only that massive changes had to go to Jason to confirm (obviously).

So again, what the **Filtered** are you talking about?

Maybe the information leaked to you by zeratul so you could reply to me for him, was incomplete there deary.

~wolverine~ wrote:

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

I'm in the library for the next hour and 45 minutes till I have to leave for my third lecture of the day. So yea, I have nothing better to do atm, lol.

And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

read a book, prolly more beneficial to you unless you cant read

Nothing in this library is beneficial to me. What happened to you wolvie, you used to be more fun.

And c'mon Juliette. "Trying to do"? That's terrible even for you.

Z might be an amazing human being, but he was an egomaniac on these forums. No offense, but I won't sympathize for the version of Z that was portrayed on these forums. And asking anyone to do so is ridiculous.

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

I'm in the library for the next hour and 45 minutes till I have to leave for my third lecture of the day. So yea, I have nothing better to do atm, lol.

And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

read a book, prolly more beneficial to you unless you cant read

Nothing in this library is beneficial to me. What happened to you wolvie, you used to be more fun.

And c'mon Juliette. "Trying to do"? That's terrible even for you.

Z might be an amazing human being, but he was an egomaniac on these forums. No offense, but I won't sympathize for the version of Z that was portrayed on these forums. And asking anyone to do so is ridiculous.

haha im savin it pal, gunna wind somebody up pretty bad soon, prolly guild =D

~wolverine~ wrote:

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:

xDaku wrote:

~wolverine~ wrote:rofl, to all you **Filtered** tards complaining falling for it everytime. Jesus you got nothing else better to do? rofl

I'm in the library for the next hour and 45 minutes till I have to leave for my third lecture of the day. So yea, I have nothing better to do atm, lol.

And beating up on ignoramuses is fun.

read a book, prolly more beneficial to you unless you cant read

Nothing in this library is beneficial to me. What happened to you wolvie, you used to be more fun.

And c'mon Juliette. "Trying to do"? That's terrible even for you.

Z might be an amazing human being, but he was an egomaniac on these forums. No offense, but I won't sympathize for the version of Z that was portrayed on these forums. And asking anyone to do so is ridiculous.

haha im savin it pal, gunna wind somebody up pretty bad soon, prolly guild =D

make sure you refer to him as marvin.
It will aid you in your quest.

George Hazard wrote:I remember me asking if it was a rule or not shortly after I was promoted.
I asked both eary and Z. And they both said it was, only that massive changes had to go to Jason to confirm (obviously).

That is not where the discussion ended, though I will end this line of conversation, as I cannot prove what it became. Clearly not having all those threads safely tucked away was a bad choice. Should have been more prepared for 'disasters'.

George Hazard wrote:Maybe the information leaked to you by zeratul so you could reply to me for him, was incomplete there deary.

*grin* Who knows?


Anyway, I enjoyed this. Feel free to continue discussing/debunking things. It is interesting to have you here again for this (short) time.

xDaku wrote:And c'mon Juliette. "Trying to do"? That's terrible even for you.

Well, I have been verbally beat up more profoundly by my little sister. (She is vicious, though, so there really is no competition, but it does explain why I am numb to such attempts.)

Guild's too easy wolve, try Jim. He's a rock. Many have tried, all have failed.

I love how you went passive aggressive on my ignoramuses comment Juliette, especially for yourself, when I never mentioned you. Guess we know who thinks what now.

Juliette wrote:

George Hazard wrote:I remember me asking if it was a rule or not shortly after I was promoted.
I asked both eary and Z. And they both said it was, only that massive changes had to go to Jason to confirm (obviously).

That is not where the discussion ended, though I will end this line of conversation, as I cannot prove what it became. Clearly not having all those threads safely tucked away was a bad choice. Should have been more prepared for 'disasters'.

Thats because it became nothing and you are talking out of your rear end.

xDaku wrote:Guild's too easy wolve, try Jim. He's a rock. Many have tried, all have failed.

Wrong.
Ask jim who made him cry about drag0n. Many may have tried. I didn't fail.