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Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:58 am
by Loki™
What she said.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:12 am
by Juliette
Loki™ wrote:What she said.
That would require you to have a supply of hundreds of thousands of GnR if you are going to make any sort of impression with that, or to consistently stay in the top 1.. :P more realistic is that you do it once or twice a week, staying in 5GnR-range, that gets you enough to convert consistently. 12000 Ascended ATs per week is a nice supply. (And those with those crazy amounts of GnR saved up can in fact sustain a substantially higher number of conversions per week, especially if they stay in the higher rank range..)

But either way, you do become reliant on the MT->APP conversion. :)



Another thing; the continuous conversion to a minimum APP of 18020, means that you will convert just the APP you get per turn, per turn. (If that makes sense? I have 18020 APP, I get 10 APP per turn, and those 10 APP get converted immediately. I will never have more than 18020 APP - unless I dump some APP from an ascension on the account, obviously.)

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:00 am
by Clockwork
Well... The turn conversion still says it uses all app if you convert to turns, so no way would you be able to convert turns 7 times a week,

However, I've just had ALL my APP converted into LF for me, automatically which sucks many balls. Yesterday I had around 17,900 APP, getting ready to use for the 4k turn conversion. Today I have 520 APP, because my APP was converted into LF at some point while i slept, before I had chance to login and convert to turns. That needs fixing otherwise the chance of ever using the turns refill is almost zero. :smt089

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:12 am
by Juliette
Clockwork wrote:Well... The turn conversion still says it uses all app if you convert to turns, so no way would you be able to convert turns 7 times a week,
Umm.. let me show you what I meant.

- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (1)
- I convert my naturally generated APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (2)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (5 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (3)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (4 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (4)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (3 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (5)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (2 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (6)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (1 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (7)
- I convert one MT and 1000 GnR to 250,000 APP. (0 MT left)
- I convert my newly infused APP to ATs.
- I use up all my Ascended ATs. (8)

As I mentioned, that requires either a major reserve of stocked-up GnR (plenty of people have that, all those who stopped ascending years ago), or a high rank continuously refilling my GnR to 1000 (hence the other statement that 3 conversions is a lot more feasible).

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:23 am
by Clockwork
Hmm, had it in my head that it was 2MT per conversion, but no your right :)

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:59 am
by Loki™
Except that
You are still drained of the energy to convert again from the last conversion, you must wait until March 3rd at 00:33:47 gametime to convert more APP for turns.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:01 am
by Juliette
Loki™ wrote:Except that
You are still drained of the energy to convert again from the last conversion, you must wait until March 3rd at 00:33:47 gametime to convert more APP for turns.
Oh, right. -_- 2 weeks between conversions.

Well, that settles that.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:37 am
by Xiaoli
You did quite some good things for ascended Sol, but these kinds of fixes are to obviously made by someone who does not play the game. The impact this has on the few players actually enjoying ascended, and ascending is (I could explain them to you, but past experiences made me believe you couldn't care less what players think) only destroying everything they worked for and pretty much screws over everything that was planned.

Anyway i am gonna put my account on vacation mode soon. Money destroyed main completely, and now this turtle update finally did it for ascended. Goodluck Sol, i am sure the 4 people that are left playing appreciate your efforts!

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:10 pm
by Slim87R
I just thought of something that might be important. Where does the auto-LF go? Does it go to your LF cache? If it fills up your LF first then goes to your reserves, it could have a Disastrous effect on descending people. Basically just make sure you have a decent amount of LF all the time and you go back to being untouchable even with the whole losing defensive ability being put in place.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:23 pm
by Sol
Juliette wrote:
Sol wrote:
Loki™ wrote:So now we'll need to use MTs in main to get turn refills?

no?
I think Loki refers to the 250,000 APP you get in Main if you use one of the MTs. If you ran out of APP (through an earlier conversion), and assuming you convert ALL your APP for AT, you can basically get a full AT recharge 7 times a week. ;)

You naturally get APP as well...and yes there is a 2 week limit on converting to turns.

@slim87r, goes to your cache.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:30 pm
by Sol
Xiaoli wrote:You did quite some good things for ascended Sol, but these kinds of fixes are to obviously made by someone who does not play the game. The impact this has on the few players actually enjoying ascended, and ascending is (I could explain them to you, but past experiences made me believe you couldn't care less what players think) only destroying everything they worked for and pretty much screws over everything that was planned.

I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.
Pfft, you just talked about money destroying main and you think because I bottle-necked the conversion of APP to LF it will destroy ascended? Hah. APP isn't the life blood of ascended, far from it in fact, quite a few people have grown (and still do, even I started a new account to see how long it would take me to grow) without the use of APP. Giving it to people slowly well help the bulk of users keep up (you remember when ETL magically got a stack of dmu right? Not many people like that ;) ).
As I said before, I'm doing what I should have done to moderate APP. You still get what it's worth.
If you want to get a good account on ascended you will have to work for it.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:13 pm
by Clockwork
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:22 pm
by Sol
Clockwork wrote:
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Multies are aloud :P, only two though.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:11 am
by Slim87R
Sol wrote:
Clockwork wrote:
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Multies are aloud :P, only two though.


And only through playing Newgrounds right? RIGHT?

Re: APP - > LF continuous function

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:24 am
by Sol
Slim87R wrote:
Sol wrote:
Clockwork wrote:
Sol wrote:I do play the game :P I actually have two accounts 8-[.


OMG multi! :P

Multies are aloud :P, only two though.


And only through playing Newgrounds right? RIGHT?

I did, I was one of the first to play newgrounds (not even sure if Juliette was on there before I was...).