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So you told him, that his account will be involved in this? Because he told me, he did not know. That is why I am asking you Tom. Cause I would like to know if that detail was kept from him, or he was well aware of it before the purchase.

I have question now SVaRuN what does it mather Da vinci has his new acc ... so figt him there and leave gandy out of it ?

1 step at a time you have to take me before you go for over people.. and bringing in more people isn't going to help you.

Savons, dont make me frak you up so bad. Now mess with my friend and you will have me to contend with also besides Tom and Gandy and the rest of OE once you hits Gandy.

IFLuX wrote:I have question now SVaRuN what does it mather Da vinci has his new acc ... so figt him there and leave gandy out of it ?

Ok then. I will explain this stuff just so this is clear and there are no further misunderstandings. But I will kindly ask anyone involved now or in the future, to read this post if they wish to know my perspective, if not, gladly skip it.


This is not about Da Vinci, or Tom as a person. This is about his actions against me, the entire alliance and the fact that he used to be a member of TL.

Tom, I am not, was not, very active and for me getting attacked for NAQ is no big deal if I leave too much out. The people who know me and know the way I do things know how I deal with such stuff.
I am will always try to talk things through first, will send a nice PM when I will feel someone has gone over board and so on. When a guy massed and took my planet a while a go...what did I do? I didn't go berserk, I asked him first for the reason, once I learned he is a new guy in SGW I let it go, the damages were repaid by me and I instead offered him guidance.
In other words, I am not the guy who takes grudges, who jumps the gun, who cannot stand the thought of someone taking his NAQ and so on...
However. I am the guy who created this alliance and as such hold it and the people in it dear. I also have a set of principles over which I stand by, which were shared among the original members and were supposed to be passed from member to member. For those we formed, for those we fought and for those we played.

And that has stayed the same till now. It is the very reason I still play. So when I saw Tom (Da Vinci) doing what he was doing I was not ok with it and the fact that he is an ex TL actually meant that I would definitely do something about it, no matter how painful it was for me to get off from my "lazy" ass.
I understand that Tom does not see this the way I do, but like I said, to me some things matter.

So my goal? I have no ultimate goal Tom... It just "hurt" me that you would go and disregard the entire TL stuff because of some NAQ benefit.



And why is Gandy involved? Simply enough because of two things.

1) I told Tom and the future buyer of his account that I will still be an issue if the new owner comes. I keep my promises

2) And why would I be an issue? Because otherwise it would send out the wrong message, which would or could be. Do whatever you wish...then sell your account and all will be as if it has never happened.

Go TL smash them OE fooz

[spoiler]ETL, hit me up sometime bro, I miss our colluding![/spoiler]

Sav this issue is gettin stupid

Simple sav like I said before

DO YOU WANNA FIGHT ME?

And dnt give me the **Filtered** u want to fight the account as its mine

Otherwise concentrate on tom

Seems like most people do not read (or intentionally ignore) what Svarun says, and are only looking to stir up stuff. Boring.

i don't see why this is a big deal.. i farm naq from anyone that has a reasonable amount out and the name is irrelevant so is the alliance unless it's got a dra or i am "good" friends. we play differently, I rely on big naq piles for my large strike were you live of income or small naq farming.. so for me not hit every source available is not very beneficial.

if i see someone massing me of course i am going to hit back and i do have goals which i like to hit so if someone comes along and starts sniping my planets i am going to go for him and everyone in the alliance untill they stop or they surrender.

ex tl yes.. some members in tl i still view as friends and i wont hit or mass but allot of my tl friends have left and it's not the alliance i was once in because they went extremely inactive and i was basically alone fighting for myself.

There is no point threatening accounts i sell as you will be in war with the whole server in a few months and it's not effecting me just making it more difficult for you and the alliance.

i didn't wan't it to come to this but it has and you made it alot bigger than it needed to be by making it 2 personal.

Gandy 181 wrote:Sav this issue is gettin stupid

Simple sav like I said before

DO YOU WANNA FIGHT ME?

And dnt give me the **Filtered** u want to fight the account as its mine

Otherwise concentrate on tom

I have PMed you about it



@Da Vinci
No Tom, this is not painful for me. I am still here whenever you will wish to talk about this thing you have my PM. I do not think you know me very well, perhaps if you give it a chance you will see things are different than it currently seems

My statement stands...one of OEs founding rules is we stick up for our empire and its members. Do as you must andwe will act accordingly.

~Dä Vinci~ wrote:i don't see why this is a big deal

It's your attitude,

Also we knew you were using the NG multi to hit under DRA. Stop playing like you do not know why you pushed Blue into getting upset.

Taf tried using their multis to avoid our DRA, they were told where to go with that idea... now all is well

And we in TL stick up for our allaince and its members. Hopefuly, this come not further...

@Da Vinci: like I told you personaly, you have no respect, you are doing what benefits you. You have numbers in head and that only makes sence for you. But like Svarun wrote, to loose defence, spyes, MS, planets does not hurt more than the fact, player who comes to TL forums, talks to us, acts like friend is than in our logs daily, and step bystep systematicali massing TLs members defences. You says TLs changed and you have not many friends in. So I ask you, why the hell do you think TL didn kick your ass ages ago? Think about it.

Whatever you destroy, for you it will be numbers... for us nothing. But a loose of friendship.

I did get kicked out by robe for over farming but it's who i am and you are saying i broke all these dra's but you didn't make me pay the costs because im ex tl and was a friend of the alliance which im very grateful for but i tend to pay up for dra's broken if necessary which gets me out of this position im in now.

for friendship lol, you expect me to sit here and fight against a statless sniper? and still call you guys my friends.

when you you hit my planet and came onto my selling thread you made it escalate and put my into a very hard decision.. sit back let my planets go, defence can do to dbl strike once im asleep or i can mass him and play at his own game.

i did slow down before r8 pmed me but 5-10t hits on someone i don't know and doesn't build his defence up.. looks inactive to me.