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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:58 am
by Osi
Reeb wrote:LOL, the wraith wouldn't go hungry, but the Goa'uld would run out of slaves, and therefore be crippled. No slaves = no naq, no naq = losing the war of attrition. Attrition is how the wraith beat the ancients, I'm sure they could do it to the Goa'uld as well.

As far as the wraith saying they didn't know how to repair their own ships anymore... lol. Do you really believe that? I'm sure that was just a trick to lure the Atlantis team into accepting the well hidden computer virus.

The goa'uld strength would be the ground war for sure, but they wouldn't be able to sustain a ground war for very long with all those darts flying around beaming up the jaffa. The only real advantage I see would be the gou'alds superior hyperdrives, but then again the wraith are patient... much like the replicators. The goa'uld didn't do so well against the replicators either, did they?



um there ships are organic and there more of a feudal society rether then a race looking for tech they arn't even teh main enemy is SG-A anymore and think about it 10 hatak vs maybe 2 hive ships per battle the hataks are smaller and faster and they can manuever much better also without shields the goa'uld could just jump in cloak alkesh use the hatak to fire on the cruisers and hive damaging them and then have the alkesh uncloak and fly around taking out whats left...and the goa'uld have like 200 ships in all and the wraith have 60 hives

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:36 pm
by Su
.:Osiris:. wrote:
Reeb wrote:LOL, the wraith wouldn't go hungry, but the Goa'uld would run out of slaves, and therefore be crippled. No slaves = no naq, no naq = losing the war of attrition. Attrition is how the wraith beat the ancients, I'm sure they could do it to the Goa'uld as well.

As far as the wraith saying they didn't know how to repair their own ships anymore... lol. Do you really believe that? I'm sure that was just a trick to lure the Atlantis team into accepting the well hidden computer virus.

The goa'uld strength would be the ground war for sure, but they wouldn't be able to sustain a ground war for very long with all those darts flying around beaming up the jaffa. The only real advantage I see would be the gou'alds superior hyperdrives, but then again the wraith are patient... much like the replicators. The goa'uld didn't do so well against the replicators either, did they?



um there ships are organic and there more of a feudal society rether then a race looking for tech they arn't even teh main enemy is SG-A anymore and think about it 10 hatak vs maybe 2 hive ships per battle the hataks are smaller and faster and they can manuever much better also without shields the goa'uld could just jump in cloak alkesh use the hatak to fire on the cruisers and hive damaging them and then have the alkesh uncloak and fly around taking out whats left...and the goa'uld have like 200 ships in all and the wraith have 60 hives


Goa'uld **Filtered** cannot fire when cloaked. I think your confusing Star Trek and StarGate. Let's not forget the amount of fighter planes per hive. Also don't forget about the Number of "Sleeping" hives ships around. What does them not being the prim enemy in SG-A have to do with their power? The Goa'uld aren't the main enemy in SG-1 either.

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 12:39 pm
by Su
amadkiwi wrote:One hive ship couldnt stand up to 50,000 ha'tak ships. The wraith are not allied, and the go'ald, while untust worthy, are. Even if the wraith weapons are very powerful, since they have no shields, they would still get torn apart by the sheer numbers of enemy


If I remember correctly isen't a ha'shak a bomber? So in that point of view, the wraith dart's would simply beat the hell out of the ha'shaks. Where does the number of 50,000 come from?

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:39 pm
by Ra
indeed there arent even 1000 goauld hataks in excistence

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 1:49 pm
by Kjarkur
Al'kesh is the bomber. We were told that overall there are about 60 plus Hive ships. Possibly a bit more and possibly a bit less.

Why do you always belive the darts are a big thing here? They won't do much good when the Hives are going down one by one. And even so, they could use some Ha'taks to attack a Hive ships while one or two other Ha'taks use the rapid-fire mode to destroy all the darts coming out. :-D

Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:10 pm
by Nicholai Brocov
Su your arguments in favor of the Wraith are well placed but completely incorrect. HA'TAK's have NEVER been classified as bombers and to even suggest such a thing is futile and quite frankly offensive to most Goa'uld players, which is probably why you mentioned it in the first place...

But with your lame attempts to prove the Wraith are superior to the Goa'uld, you are willingly jumping in the same ditch as everyone else. Quite simply spouting the same un-proven (goa'uld suck) mentality that all these other haters keep pointing out and getting shot down.

To be honest I am tired of repeating myself to people like you, who think that the Goa'uld would be crushed so easily. That would belittle not only the Goa'uld but also every other race that has either impacted the Goa'uld or have been impacted by the Goa'uld. So your basically saying that the Wraith would crush the Goa'uld in a matter of minutes... Which the Asgard haven't been able to do for hundreds if not thousands of years... Nor have the Nox, Ancients, Jaffa, or even the Tauri. Funny how one-sided and completely oblivious you are even when all of this has already been proven and yet you'll still find some lame reason to continue this pointless argument...

Not that I don't enjoy making people like you look incompitent, but please stop acting like the Goa'uld are nothing compared to the Wraith. This is not and never will be true.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:51 am
by Ranak
Now that 2 Hive Ships are on the way we shall see.
In fact, what if the Tari made peace with the Wrath and had them eat the Priors? The Wrath like the tast of Ori/Altarians better anyway.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:04 pm
by -Ailm-
all been said before go away please =D

nivholai, all the great race races you mentioned COULD have crushed the goa'uld, the asgard couldnt because of the replicator war.

the goa'uld WOULD crush the present day wraith, because hat'aks > deadluses, deadaluses can easily destroy a hive and they have NO energy weapons.

quite simple really

-3rd

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:11 pm
by REK
Ranak wrote:Now that 2 Hive Ships are on the way we shall see.
In fact, what if the Tari made peace with the Wrath and had them eat the Priors? The Wrath like the tast of Ori/Altarians better anyway.


pssst thats a different game and technicall un offilliated

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:11 pm
by -Ailm-
YEA SPAM

-3rd

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:26 pm
by Ranak
REK wrote:
Ranak wrote:Now that 2 Hive Ships are on the way we shall see.
In fact, what if the Tari made peace with the Wrath and had them eat the Priors? The Wrath like the tast of Ori/Altarians better anyway.


pssst thats a different game and technicall un offilliated

I was talking about the show, it should be intresting to see.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:31 pm
by -Ailm-
3rd wrote: go away please =D


-3rd

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:32 pm
by Ranak
Fine!
:P

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:35 pm
by -Ailm-
finally :roll:

-3rd

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:37 pm
by Ranak
I'm a Gou'ld and you belaved me!