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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:57 am
by TheSoulHarvester
Ston wrote:as ive stated somewhere else before:

i rather like to see two innocent players (even friends!) being banned then let one cheater gettin away with a single unit or naq.

its a hard desicion to decide who did it on purpose and who didnt, but ive trust in admins crew that they did a complete investigation (esp. on the timing when the "crimes" been commited) and made up their mind carefully before deleting anyones account!

last but not least: you can restart, you can rebuild. we all have many friends here -thats why the game is so popular and im sure every single one of your true friends will help you to rebuild if you have to start all over again.

in the end its only a great, free web-game.


i see Your point. however i still say, let us put our trust into Admin and his team, security hole comes FIRST! players, second. sorry, but the games security is more important than few select players. I have the utmost confidence in this situation being resolved when security breach has been identified and eliminated! 8) 8)

and Jenny, all others, dont quit! we can all help them rebuild. keep in mind, even a bil naq is a heavens gift sometimes ;)

100000k uu is a massive blessing, dont forget that! :wink: :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:44 am
by ~Artanis~
Teal'auc [Tok'ra] wrote:Please, do not go offtopic. This is not quitting thread, so please keep it on topic.
Thanks guys.



Teal'auc

thx Jenny for mentioning that,to the point guys

I say for you all,dont quit because of Jenny,i know some of you like you avenger,samson and tweety for exam.You are very good people and mates and i am glad that i can have you as friends but:

1.Jenny is quiting because our friends looky and mohamed were banned and deleted and nothing has been sorted out,they are inocent and because of multi´s they had to lose their acounts.Jenny is quiting because she doesnt want to see such thing happen again and neizther do I and thats why i will quit also if the acounts wont be returned

2.you have perfect acounts,you samson want to quit???mate dont do it,you have builded your acount long time and its a good one,that goes for tweety and Avenger also.You are LG except for avenger but he will be soon if he is not atm

3.you know you dont want to quit,but i apreciate that you are willing to stop Jenny somehow and make her reconsider this

4.she has a purpose why she wants to leave,just as I,but you want to leave because of her,i mean will the game be no more fun without her???NO,yes you will lose a good long-time friends but that happens,think of your mates that dont want you to leave.

5.this will be like a chain and everybody will want to quit,but they wont because they dont want to,Just as you they will post it just to stop you,i dont believe that they would really quit

6.i know you could quit and are capable to do it,but dont.You must have a serious reason for it,it must be something else than Jenny´s leaving,like my puprpose of leaving because my friends lost their acounts for nothing because of multi and justice wasnt served,now i think this is a reason to leave the game

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:52 am
by Munchy
From what I can tell the two accounts that were deleted will not be returning. I believe that the conviction was a mistake, and possibly hastily made under the circumstances.

Should the two affected players decide to restart, broker me for 200 billion naq whenever you get full SS. It isn't much relatively speaking, but it is a start. I will ofcourse need proof that it is you guys, and not some random scammer, but I think that will be easy enough to arrange.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:55 am
by Bazsy
Actualy i think the community could give together their account. But lets wait a few days for what happens...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:55 am
by ~Artanis~
Munchy wrote:From what I can tell the two accounts that were deleted will not be returning. I believe that the conviction was a mistake, and possibly hastily made under the circumstances.

Should the two affected players decide to restart, broker me for 200 billion naq whenever you get full SS. It isn't much relatively speaking, but it is a start. I will ofcourse need proof that it is you guys, and not some random scammer, but I think that will be easy enough to arrange.


thats really nice of you munchy but 200 bil naq cant betraded for a LG+1 acount with 5 mio army,but thx anyway for the support

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:57 am
by ~Artanis~
Bazsy wrote:Actualy i think the community could give together their account. But lets wait a few days for what happens...

mohamed maybe but if u would want to return acount to looky than you would ahve to make him a LG+1 and probably as fast as possible,because waiting hlaf a year for that isnt worth it if u aks me and i think he would want to go all through that long

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:59 am
by Bazsy
True, i didnt know it was LG+1 with 5m

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:08 pm
by ~Artanis~
Bazsy wrote:True, i didnt know it was LG+1 with 5m


that doesnt matter,only thing that matters is that i want their acounts back,the way they were before the accident,nothing else,are we asking so much????

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:12 pm
by El TC
If this issue is not resolved in a fair manner, Forum will cause all honorable and decent players to leave sgw and all that will be left of sgw will be 40k little kids, cheaters, inactive accounts and hackers.

Good luck

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:16 pm
by Breaker
U are right EL as always, i also wish to not see this game ruined, but only admin can sort it out, but its obverious they dont care much for players.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:19 pm
by Firecracker048
i gotta agree with this. we need jsutice servered, we need their accounts back. hell, ill even give up my account for them to have thiers back. i didnt know them but i feel for them.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:26 pm
by ~Artanis~
Firecracker048 wrote:i gotta agree with this. we need jsutice servered, we need their accounts back. hell, ill even give up my account for them to have thiers back. i didnt know them but i feel for them.

its good that some people care for them even they dont know them,i also told i will trade my acount for theirs and even start again just for being with them

As i posted in ym first post,as we need justice in RL so thsi game requires it,and yes you aright,it would cause that some good players would leave for this or protest and SGW wouldnt be what it is,it would be only full of kids,no offence guys but you know what i mean by it as EL

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:30 pm
by Xeen
Thing cannot be viewed white or black.

Admin is only a human and in most time he acting as fair and resonable man.

Now he made a mistake. Did not secure test account well and keep reallu big amount of resources there. A bad guy did the worst thing he could - hack it and distribute resources - and admin will made good thing. He banned accounts who can be linked with a bad guy for investigation.
After that he realize he cannot be sure about guilt or innocence of players he banned.

Then he made the BIGGEST mistake ever. He freeing one and delete others - just because Bryan is popular player and two another is not important?
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I really understand why players want leave.
Yes - rules are clear. Admin can ban/delete any account with or without reason with or without explanations. No chance to deal with such rules.

Many of us play this game and believe for justice and honourable playing. Support friends, make new relationship and enjoying our virtual wars. And we feel safe, Because we believed - if we played honourable - we cannot lost our account.

Now? We are dissapointed. Cheaters are not dissapointed, they know they can be catch and lose their accounts anytime.

How about fair players ? WHO WILL BE NEXT LOOKY? WHO WILL BE NEXT MOHAMMED?

It is only membersip inside Omega or personal contact with Jason what can really protect you from lose your account just for similar accident?

Alot players lose motivation to stay because of that. You never know when you or your good friend, teammate can be deleted without explanation, without justice.


Jason, ask yourself:
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What is the point to play honorable and with justice, if The Only God in this game, Admin, YOU - JASON, Father of this game disrespect such virtues ? It is similar if ETL as leader of Omega will cheat his own members (just example :) ).


If justice will not come to us we can leave and after time only cheaters and inactive account stay here. Or we can help innocetn build them new account - but black shadow will stay - you never know when it can happen again. But only clean solution is admin resolve it by his hands and take faith about justice and fairplay back to our hearts.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:35 pm
by ~Artanis~
Xeen wrote:Thing cannot be viewed white or black.

Admin is only a human and in most time he acting as fair and resonable man.

Now he made a mistake. Did not secure test account well and keep reallu big amount of resources there. A bad guy did the worst thing he could - hack it and distribute resources - and admin will made good thing. He banned accounts who can be linked with a bad guy for investigation.
After that he realize he cannot be sure about guilt or innocence of players he banned.

Then he made the BIGGEST mistake ever. He freeing one and delete others - just because Bryan is popular player and two another is not important?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I really understand why players want leave.
Yes - rules are clear. Admin can ban/delete any account with or without reason with or without explanations. No chance to deal with such rules.

Many of us play this game and believe for justice and honourable playing. Support friends, make new relationship and enjoying our virtual wars. And we feel safe, Because we believed - if we played honourable - we cannot lost our account.

Now? We are dissapointed. Cheaters are not dissapointed, they know they can be catch and lose their accounts anytime.

How about fair players ? WHO WILL BE NEXT LOOKY? WHO WILL BE NEXT MOHAMMED?

It is only membersip inside Omega or personal contact with Jason what can really protect you from lose your account just for similar accident?

Alot players lose motivation to stay because of that. You never know when you or your good friend, teammate can be deleted without explanation, without justice.


Jason, ask yourself:
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What is the point to play honorable and with justice, if The Only God in this game, Admin, YOU - JASON, Father of this game disrespect such virtues ? It is similar if ETL as leader of Omega will cheat his own members (just example :) ).


If justice will not come to us we can leave and after time only cheaters and inactive account stay here. Or we can help innocetn build them new account - but black shadow will stay - you never know when it can happen again. But only clean solution is admin resolve it by his hands and take faith about justice and fairplay back to our hearts.


OMG,Xeen i love your posts,you really write to topic and point out everything whats needed but we others also try to do it,good work mate

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:58 pm
by ~Artanis~
Why do you think that i wrote this topic????just for fun???there are hapening pretty bad things in the game every day and people arent even aware of it,me too.

Well they cant be aware of everything but of most of it they should be,like such thing,as i already stated and xeen pointed this thing out i dont see why i should stay in this game and play.

To watch how someone else is getting deleted for the same reason and maybe its another of my mates and go through all this again???brag admin to return the acounts back to my mates and see that it hasnt any progress till now???

Bryan is a really good guy and also asked to sort out the situation with our 2 mates.

If my mates wont get back their acounts back,should i play????should i play it and work really hard for my acount,raid,attack and get really strong as others???
Well maybe yes,but once i will wake up,try to log in and only thing i will see will be:
YOU ARE BANNED,TRY TO CONTACT ADMIN ABOUT THIS SITUATION????

Spend hundreds of hours,weeks,months and play this game and come to such end????The time could be spent more effectively than this.

Was anyone of you afraid of losing his acount this way????well i think most of you not,maybe noone if it didnt happen to him.
I play this game almost one year,in few days it should be one year and i never thought about this,never think of it,i knew it could happen but not once has this pass through my mind and now????

Worry that something like this will happen to me or similar and i will lose my acount for a multi???spedn hours by playing this and worry that i can lose everything i have builded that long???i raher play another game and leave where justice isnt known.

I dont want to say that all this is admins fault but frankly it is,one thing made another happen for exam without electricity you wont have light.
Admin didnt have his acount secured good,got hacked,uu were sent on other acount,raided and acounts baned,one thing made the other one happen.

Admin should sort this because in my opinion its mostly his fault that he didnt have the acount well protected,that should be the most important thing for him so he could avoind things like this happen

Regards Zerathull