CoP: What should be changed?

[RepliJake]

My biggest problem comes from the fact that I hate "being protected" as a whole. Hence my planet names. While I'm all for standing up for your members, if that member does something that deserves retribution, I think the best thing is to stand aside and let the retribution happen. I've had friends come to me for assistance, but when I find out that they took the guy's planet and that started the trouble, well then sorry. You've earned your beating. Take it and learn from it.

I have no problems if the strongest players want to band together. Replijake takes my planet, meh. He's a better player, he deserves it. But when some guy with 1/4 my army size takes my planet, I look at his account and see the following:

Protected by Hensenshi
Protected by corkscrew
Protected by Replijake
Protected by Lore
Protected by Beliskner
Take and you will be
Sat on until
You delete.
You have been
WARNED!

Ok please inform us all who this is, firstly, I tell people not to say they are protected by me, if they're in CoP it's a given and doesn't need to be advertised, and secondly, anyone threatening to sit on someone until deletion just annoys the hell out of me, it's not right.

[RobinInDaHood]

When picking a target to hit, I hit the "Protected by" planets first. That silliness has always bugged me.

The "sit on you until you delete" is really lame. How does that kind of attitude help the game grow or promote fair and fun play?

[Lord Ho Chi Man]

you can have a planet war with anyone you want if one of ours takes from you first you can take it back you resort to massing then you declared war on DDE ... simple as that the game is not only about wars the game is about communities ... we have our own and we do interact with those outside of it... and still do... seems like only those who get in our cross hairs have an actual grudge.. if your massed for no reason sure be mad but if you massed on of ours for anything aside from being massed by us first then you are just as guilty of the evil you say we do..

members are told they do things at their own risk... if they are truelly massed for any reason aside from the massing a prerson with no reason then we will be more than happy to put the war in the game .. one of ours gets massed cause he got bored and decided to be an arse then oh well hes on his own unless the other persons alliance wants a fight

and WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIGHT US

Say I take the planet back, then the DDE person retakes the planet and masses me, Then I should be allowed to mass That person back as he initated the massings. But your policies have always been mass one person, fight the entire alliance.

REK while I believe you and a few others in your alliance would be like that, there are a few overly aggressive people in your alliance that no matter how trival the planet or the nature of the attack on the DDE member they would band together and take a person out for taking back their planet. And they would then manipulate the situation so that it was all the person who's planet it was to begin with's fault. Which leaves you in the position of having to justify their argument when the attacked person brings to the forum or game PM.

[slicky]

The problem is your all to chicken to have your accounts smashed over and over, whereas COP are in COP because they dont really give a crap if they are smashed (with the exception of a few stat builders) Which is why COP is the strongest coallition in the game.

What you don't like is the fact that most of us will do anything for a chance to get into a fight, and possiby loose everything that has been built in our accounts. If it means that friends want to join in to well then thats up to them.

People that play this game shouldn't need any excuse to crush someones acccount over and over, it doesn't matter what alliance your in.

Up untill now every alliance that isn't in COP have been afraid to completely follow through any attacks on us becuase they...

A. Can't do crap coz they aint a very good player.
B. Are good at building stuff but dont want to loose it.
C. After one massing of a COP member want it all to be over and delt with, when they blatently know COP don't need much of an excuse to turn an account to litrally nothing in all servers.


The difference between most of us and most of them?

A. We can build well, but we are also willing to loose it for the sake of someone else's destruction, and a little fun or excitement.
B. We are willing to follow through untill there's nothing left at all.
C. We won't just stop at one massing, wots the fun in that!

Why don't any other non COP alliances like us? Coz they wish they could be the same, but cant.


The question asked, what should COP do different?

Well they should give out a free I love REK t-shirt on joining.

[Alabrax]

anyone threatening to sit on someone until deletion just annoys the hell out of me, it's not right.

The "sit on you until you delete" is really lame. How does that kind of attitude help the game grow or promote fair and fun play?

You guys should have a talk with Tokra... he has made this threat more then once.

[RobinInDaHood]

Why don't any other non COP alliances like us? Coz they wish they could be the same, but cant.

Amusing...

[RepliJake]

anyone threatening to sit on someone until deletion just annoys the hell out of me, it's not right.

The "sit on you until you delete" is really lame. How does that kind of attitude help the game grow or promote fair and fun play?

You guys should have a talk with Tokra... he has made this threat more then once.

LOL he already knows what I think of him...

[Hansbrough]

so to sum up what I think I'm hearing:

1) you don't us to having good military relations with anyone.
2) you want us to sell our defense and not raid as much.
3) you want us to not mass because we were attacked (even for naq).
4) you don't want our alliance to back up each of their individual members.
5) you want us to be a little more open about our procedures.
6) you don't want us to mass people because we have grudges with them.
7) you want us give away stuff freely.

While we're at it, why don't we just pull our pants down and bend over too!

[greenman]

Wow tax!

You took a bunch of thoughtful replies, oversimplified them until they don't even resemble the original thought, and made a joke about it.

What was the purpose of starting this thread if this was your intention all along? I feel like a fool, I thought this was an honest inquiry.

[Hansbrough]

Wow tax!

You took a bunch of thoughtful replies, oversimplified them until they don't even resemble the original thought, and made a joke about it.

What was the purpose of starting this thread if this was your intention all along? I feel like a fool, I thought this was an honest inquiry.

you know there are so many ways to respond to this. But seriously, and I mean seriously, as much thought and time as you all put into your posts, give me one good reason why CoP should sacrifice the hard-work and effort we've put into the game?

If you were in cop, what would make you respect others more?

Everyone of the posts were made from the selfish point of view. You all seem to feel that cop is the reason you're not doing well in the game, and I guarantee that's not true. Many individuals in CoP are overjoyed to actually help new members to the game get started.

Now about the posts that I read (I got to page 5 before my eyes gave out and I stopped caring). Not a one was based on our point of view on what cop should do, but rather i hear more stuff like, cop should disband. I wanted to hear reasonable explanations on what CoP could do besides breaking up, something within the realm of reason.

[InTuItIoN]

The problem is your all to chicken to have your accounts smashed over and over

Normally we don't have a choice do we?

Up untill now every alliance that isn't in COP have been afraid to completely follow through any attacks on us becuase they...

A. Can't do crap coz they aint a very good player.
B. Are good at building stuff but dont want to loose it.
C. After one massing of a COP member want it all to be over and delt with, when they blatently know COP don't need much of an excuse to turn an account to litrally nothing in all servers.

The Legion just changed that

Well they should give out a free I love REK t-shirt on joining.

Can I have a free "I raided REK t-shirt" instead

[greenman]

The posts read as they do because they are answering the original question.

I keep seeing people talk about how evil and mean CoP is. However, I've yet to see one recommendation on exactly what cop to could better with the exception of massing everyone. So I'd like for people to sound off on what they would change about cop.

People are telling you why they dislike the CoP and how they would change it. If you want a different type of answer, please rephrase the question and perhaps people will be more inclined to give you the type of answers you are looking for.

You even said yourself

This is for my own personal attempt at trying to understand the sgw community.

I think your original question was answered quite well. Feel free to post a follow-up question instead of poking fun at answers that are honest responses to the question as asked.

[Reaver]

It's really the same kind of playground mentality that causes boisterous children to gang together and push around the weaker or smaller kids. The phenomenon isn't limited to just kids, of course. The same behavior can be observed in teen-age street gangs and even organized crime. When another powerful kid/gang/crime syndicate comes along, you either preemptively destroy them or make them part of your organization to ensure that you won't have to confront them.

Robin, your posts tend to be intelligent and coherent, and I appreciate that about you. But I disagree with your conclusion. Or rather, I don't think you took it far enough. Yes, groups coming together in those ways do, indeed, bring to mind those images. But what happens when a collection of towns come together for protection? They form a province/county and no one thinks they're bullies. And what happens when those units come together for common protection/common interests and form a state/nation? Again, no one calls them bullies. It's common sense.

I think your labels are accurate to where you took them, but you failed to follow through and reflect on the fact that group behavior in one setting can be considered 'bullying' while in another can be considered 'good common sense.' It all depends on what frame of reference you'd like to paint SGW as to where your view comes out on the CoP. Now, I see each player as a realm. And therefore, I lean towards seeing the way we play on the bigger scale. I see the collecting of forces together for common defense as good common sense, rather than as bullying.

[Hansbrough]

The posts read as they do because they are answering the original question.

I keep seeing people talk about how evil and mean CoP is. However, I've yet to see one recommendation on exactly what cop to could better with the exception of massing everyone. So I'd like for people to sound off on what they would change about cop.

People are telling you why they dislike the CoP and how they would change it. If you want a different type of answer, please rephrase the question and perhaps people will be more inclined to give you the type of answers you are looking for.

You even said yourself

This is for my own personal attempt at trying to understand the sgw community.

I think your original question was answered quite well. Feel free to post a follow-up question instead of poking fun at answers that are honest responses to the question as asked.

While that was my question, I also hoped people would realize that suggesting the impossible is not reasonable. I wanted to hear reasonable suggestions... I also was hoping people would realize how foolish their requests of what in cop needs to change sounded and would hopefully help them with our perspective as well as their own.

[Hansbrough]

What should be changed?


CoP should start more wars for no reason

CoP should Lord it up on the Forums more

CoP should belittle the community for not standing up for themselves

CoP should blackmail everyone

CoP should mass anyone buying uu

CoP should mass anyone selling uu at a high price

CoP should mass anyone bumping threads that aren't CoP related

CoP should be everything people say they are...

really, by everyone's whining and driving this war, I can almost guarantee this will be the end result.