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Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:00 am
by papa~smurf
thanks i am the worst speller in the world, i was born harold, but shorten it to hal cause it was easier to spell
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:46 pm
by Gatedialer
MGZ wrote:While I don't think Clinton was a good president over all, I do have to give him credit for introducing the Line-Item Veto. People adding crap to bills that have nothing to do with the bill.... insanity. The LIV should be used more often.
oh, and the country you're thinking of Halamander is called CAMBODIA.
It was ruled unconstitutional.
Bush has asked for it back again, but congress has yet to do it again.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:02 am
by MGZ
Gatedialer wrote:MGZ wrote:While I don't think Clinton was a good president over all, I do have to give him credit for introducing the Line-Item Veto. People adding crap to bills that have nothing to do with the bill.... insanity. The LIV should be used more often.
oh, and the country you're thinking of Halamander is called CAMBODIA.
It was ruled unconstitutional.
Bush has asked for it back again, but congress has yet to do it again.
damn subversive congress... they just want to weasel things in under unrelated bills....
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:24 pm
by duke iron
overall ofcourse bill clinton isnt the best president but i think he is more charesmatic leader kind of like a modern day abraham lincoln and to make it all the better he was tappen the maid
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:59 pm
by Bull-E
best-FDR (me when my time comes)
worst-not bush
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:01 am
by MGZ
I repeat
worst=Pierce
He didn't receive HIS OWN PARTY"S NOMINATION for a second term (the only president ever to do so)
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:55 am
by Phoenix of Terra
Jack wrote:I don't like the way they separate the voters into districts according to how they feel the districts should be mapped.
The districts can be map any way they like, you vote in your district then the votes for each district are counted up, say you're in district A for example and you vote for candidate B, and the majority of everyone in your district votes for the other guy, your district then votes for that other guy and your vote pretty much is cast out the door.
Lets say (for argument's sake) the majority of your district agrees with you, your district is also the largest district in Texas, but the majority of the other districts in Texas vote for the other guy, well then the state of Texas votes for the other guy and your vote again is cast out
Now back to the part on the mapping of the districts, if you remember, a while back the democratic party of our senate or whatever skipped state to avoid voting on the remapping of the districts because they accused the republican party of mapping the districts in a way that it would favor the republicans, IE they made the districts they knew would vote democrat larger and less and the ones that would vote republican smaller and more numerous
Correct me if I'm wrong, I did not major in this, my major was leadership, not political anything, though I do not believe I'm wrong
I think that voting system can be blamed on Tom DeLay. I'd heard he messed with something dealing with districts.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:14 am
by MGZ
Phoenix of Terra wrote:I think that voting system can be blamed on Tom DeLay. I'd heard he messed with something dealing with districts.
Pffft, NO. It's called Gerrymandering, and the practice has been around for over a hundred years.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:08 am
by MGZ
Jack wrote:Almost 200, actually
true, true.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:59 am
by Phoenix of Terra
MGZ wrote:Phoenix of Terra wrote:I think that voting system can be blamed on Tom DeLay. I'd heard he messed with something dealing with districts.
Pffft, NO. It's called Gerrymandering, and the practice has been around for over a hundred years.
I was relating it to Texas' voting issues. I know gerrmandering has been around for a while. Elbridge Gerry did it first in Massachussets (can't remember the party) and that was a mere one to three decades after the constitution was written.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:07 am
by MGZ
then be clear about it.
Re: Best/worst Presidents of the United States
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:20 am
by Phoenix of Terra
MGZ wrote:then be clear about it.
He was talking about the Texas way of voting and I mentioned Tom DeLay (a senator of Texas accused of doing exactly that who eventually resigned due to other charges) because I thought he had received enough exposure that he would be connected to the issue.