StarGateWars Forums

There now, that wasn't too difficult now was it BMMJ?

Thank you for your assistence in this matter.

~r8~ wrote:agree with rodwolf this war started for many reasons and i dont think many of the originators of the conflict play anymore. call them watever you want the truth is whoever stayed until the end of this war deserves the respect on both sides and not to be judged on the accions of those in the past.

i speak for TLE when i say we are not all bad and do not support that kind of behaviour anymore. what happend in the past well we are looking forward not back.

I'd like to see an official statement of TF condoning such behaviour and maybe admitting some mistakes of the past. Then maybe we can look forward.

Thanks for your post R8, it is pleasant surprise especially considering the name calling I got from some of your allies when the blahh/zesh matter was brought up.

Deni, and i want to see some FUALL HC to admit and apologize for cheats in own basees, FUALL bases. You are all the time mentioning one or two names. There were few cheats in FUALL, if it was confirmed or not by admin, many of us are still sure that famous famili cirlce online 24/24 every day in week were cheats. Not sure if one of those was not HC member of FUALL. Who knows.

Deni, stop with this crap here or forget all the future. Dont turn all the **Filtered** on our heads. DOT.

caesar2 wrote:Deni, and i want to see some FUALL HC to admit and apologize for cheats in own basees, FUALL bases. You are all the time mentioning one or two names. There were few cheats in FUALL, if it was confirmed or not by admin, many of us are still sure that famous famili cirlce online 24/24 every day in week were cheats. Not sure if one of those was not HC member of FUALL. Who knows.

Deni, stop with this crap here or forget all the future. Dont turn all the **Filtered** on our heads. DOT.

DDE had one cheat in our ranks who was reported to Jason and banned. I have nothing there to apologize for as we have made our stance on cheats clear some time ago.

I wish you would too, but it seems that is a long lost cause. Sad.

Sad to see you as DDE autority to drug into the war players who quit year ago and destroy all the efforts wich was done so far to move forward... Sad.

caesar2 wrote:Sad to see you as DDE autority to drug into the war players who quit year ago and destroy all the efforts wich was done so far to move forward... Sad.

LOL

You blocked me to never "negotiate with me in one room", remember?

You accused me of spreading lies, **Filtered** etc.

You were the one starting the convo in an aggressive manner.

You made your call.


It would have been much easier if you would have admitted that you had dodgy players in your (not your personally, but TJP's ranks) and moved on. But I guess you are not able to give that what you demand from others.


And for those wondering what C2 is taking such offense at, it is my following:

deni wrote:Anyone remember blahh?

deni wrote:

caesar2 wrote:Deni... blahh eh? he was not my leader.

He was the leader of TDL and a member of the TLE HC - one of the 3 "Empires" who formed TJP later to be renamed TTF.

Rodwolf wrote:Personally I don't care anymore why this war started. Everyone saw this war coming far on beforehand so doesn't really matter who actually started it. In game terms it has been millenia ago

Just get it over with already.

Indeed.

This thread has radically veered off topic. As author I have asked the mods to move the last 4 pages of discussion about the FUALL vs TF War to the appropriate war discussion thread at viewtopic.php?f=101&t=152380&start=0

Might be a stupid question, and forgive me as i really don't know, (might have come out the months i was away) What did Blahh do to cheat? ~T~

If everyone so likes to dig through the past, why only look at one side. Why is SU in the war? Because of Shornaal and others in Delta, that provoked, atacked us and decided to drag us down with them. Like Blahh he also quit ages ago, leaving us to fight the war that at the time we had nothing to do with.

The main reason this war is still going on is because there still are plenty of "dodgy" people like that on both sides. People who have no selfcontrol and who's only purpose is to provoke flam and arguments on the forums. People who constantly negate any chance of progress.

TF and HR are not the same as TLE and TJP. SU is an equal part of the TF just like any other alliance and we have nothing to do with Blahh. The only purpose of the TF these days is to counter FUALL's continued agression. Once that stops we can move forward.

~Thamuz~ wrote:Might be a stupid question, and forgive me as i really don't know, (might have come out the months i was away) What did Blahh do to cheat? ~T~

As far as I heared, he used some multi-accounts to gather AT's. The multi accounts were banned, his main account was not ( I can tell you the reason for the main not being banned on MSN ).


And yes people on both sides will need to be a bit lenient to get somewhere.

Xale wrote:TF and HR are not the same as TLE and TJP. SU is an equal part of the TF just like any other alliance and we have nothing to do with Blahh. The only purpose of the TF these days is to counter FUALL's continued agression. Once that stops we can move forward.

I laughed at this last bit.

You say that you are nothing like TLE and TJP? Get real. Nothing has changed within the ranks except weeding out the people who either don't want to be there, or absolutely don't care. So become inactive or just sell their account.

You still operate how you operated at the beginning of the war - bore us to death. Nothing changed.

You still act how you acted at the beginning of the war - cocky, like you are winning and yet, you people sit statless with hidden motherships hitting us while we are either offline, or you simply overpower us by numbers, or a larger X variable. Other then that, you don't do a damn thing.

You (not meaning you directly since we're all talking about TF, FUALL, etc) throw away your friends the moment they do something you don't like, which is unacceptable by all standards.

What else is there really to tell? You players are dragging out a war simply because you cannot sacrifice your egos.

I sat by quietly while you did negotiations simply because I have no reason to voice any opinion on the matter. Norbe pointed that out I was one of the many reasons why 'talks' got derailed. I thought it was still a load of garbage but I respect what he said and didn't post at all for quiet some time and yet, the same out come and all I hear is the same **Filtered** over and over.

You cannot sacrifice any of your egos simply because you think you have won this war. You cannot win, and by all stand points we are standing superior to you in many ways. Not all ways, but many ways.

We have more active players, we are growing in number. We are Ascending, we are doing all of what your various players are doing but with many more of us doing it.

This is how wars are fought in MMORPG games. You either fight back, or you are beaten into submission and must hit and run until you simply get bored and give up. So keep doing what you are doing, you will only waste your time while we prosper.

And quiet frankly..this is probably one of the most truthful, non-dick like posts I've made in a long time. I'd rather not have to make another because I like being mean to you guys.

caesar2 wrote:There were few cheats in FUALL, if it was confirmed or not by admin, many of us are still sure that famous famili cirlce online 24/24 every day in week were cheats.

which family?

Xale wrote:If everyone so likes to dig through the past, why only look at one side. Why is SU in the war? Because of Shornaal and others in Delta, that provoked, atacked us and decided to drag us down with them. Like Blahh he also quit ages ago, leaving us to fight the war that at the time we had nothing to do with.

The main reason this war is still going on is because there still are plenty of "dodgy" people like that on both sides. People who have no selfcontrol and who's only purpose is to provoke flam and arguments on the forums. People who constantly negate any chance of progress.

TF and HR are not the same as TLE and TJP. SU is an equal part of the TF just like any other alliance and we have nothing to do with Blahh. The only purpose of the TF these days is to counter FUALL's continued agression. Once that stops we can move forward.

u must be kidding
u are one of the best farms in this game
nothing will protect your trill out without def
go play peace games
if is not fuall will be someone else who will want free 48 hours naq from 300 mil miners

Xale your own argument works against you, you know. You claim you were in the war because of Shornaal, fine. I'll accept that. However, he was quite specific in saying it was a vendetta. So that wasn't part of the war. Additionally, YOU have 'claimed victory' in that vendetta while remaining a part of the war. Hence, SU, like EPA are additions mid way through and it was SU who declared war on FUALL, not the other way around.

Here's what you should have done when you claimed victory - claim victory in the vendetta while surrendering from the war. That would have gotten you out of this war, which SU declared.