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RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

ok lets go over the PEE

my point is you have not won
my evidance is for 2 year TTF has been at war with you and still have surrendered
my Explination you haven't won 'cos it's taken this long already and the moral of TTF has never been higher you cannot win even with your 83 accounts more than we have and DDE being the largest power in the game and suposedly "best" you still haven't none in TTF claims to be the best ands so by you claiming you have won and being the best yet no surrender has been given you are basically losing if the best can't beat the rest then why is it the best? how can it be the winner why does it claim it's the best? how can you claim a win without finishing and so i put it to you your entire argument is null and void

if you wish to continue this then can you quote this and go to the HR Vs large empirse dissussion thread thank-you

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

lol @ Roket, Im not in the server war but from FS-v-DDE experience I doubt the word 'WE' applies, I like you, you're a funny guy but I seriously doubt you played any significant part in any victory that may come

Also your campaign medals are very pretty, but you dont get campaign medals until AFTER a campaign has been completed

Oh dear, I feel another thread going down hill and off topic, and I seem to be playing a part in it's deterioration, so I will bow out of this thread now before the jokes and arguments get nasty

Cardinal just because you haven't surrendered it does not mean we haven't won. Not quitting just means you haven't quit, nothing else. The game has no specific in built "win" scenario, so unless one side admits they have lost the war is still on.

So yes, you have not surrendered, the war is not over, FUALL have not officially "won", but it's OK, we don't need your surrender, that is the most amusing thing about your stubborn nature.

To be honest i don't think many in FUALL even care about you lot anymore, just a list of mostly dead accounts, some good farms if hit quickly enough after a turn change, 1 or 2 still fighting, if you can call sniping at off peak hours with a rebuilt MS or one just back from a mission "fighting" anyway.

Surrender, or not, meh, couldn't care less myself, the time when TTF made any noticable impact on our game play has long since passed, 1st month of the war was reasonable, rest has just been sniping by you lot and farming and sitting on you by us.

Easy to forget your side had significantly more numbers when this whole thing started, now we outnumber you not far off 2:1, the FUALL empire is stronger than it was at the start of the war, actively pursuing wars and enjoying the game. Most of your guys are bitter and reduced to whining on the forums about $$ spending, quite clearly not enjoying the game and haven't for a while.

Mezz that isn't nice, i try real hard, and maybe i'm not the only one that would win the war, but i contribute, and thats what gets us the win!

OK, if I start fighting for TTF again will it be fun? Who can we trade me for, lets see.

A ~Qacol~ for 1 quad of naq
A ~Qacol~ for a DTA and COTO alliance.

I don't know maybe they have nothing to trade us.

~Qacol~
A priceless fighter but a big cash spender.

RoKeT wrote:Mezz that isn't nice, i try real hard, and maybe i'm not the only one that would win the war, but i contribute, and thats what gets us the win!

Sorry mate, but when the propaganda starts I always feel the need to tear someone down a peg or two, and you were right THERE !!!

Must work on my self control, I try but sometimes I slip for a second and something nasty comes out at a random target who happens to be in the way

qacol wrote:OK, if I start fighting for TTF again will it be fun? Who can we trade me for, lets see.

A ~Qacol~ for 1 quad of naq
A ~Qacol~ for a DTA and COTO alliance.

I don't know maybe they have nothing to trade us.

~Qacol~
A priceless fighter but a big cash spender.

ROFL!

We’ll trade individual players for the surrenders of TTF member alliances?

Qacol, you do come up with some great and funny ideas!

Borek while it does not mean you haven't won the war it certainly does not mean you have.

Everyone that keeps saying stuff about member numbers..Fact A: both sides lost some great players that cannot be replaced
Fact B: a lot of the players in FUA aren't active (I mean, just look at Omega as an example..it's supposed to be teh elite alliance in OE and yet I cannot remember the last time someone from Omega actually attacked or sabbed me). Also some players in TTF are inactive.
Fact C: FUA has recruited a lot of members that don't even know it's war, let the warring itself alone.

About the defenses all I can say is lol. When you'll see who has a defense worth of mentioning, do check their trades aswell. I think you'll see an interesting pattern there between most of them.

~N

You mistake my meaning Jack, i am saying we honestly do not care about you lot anymore. There's hardly any of you even pretending to make an effort anymore. Sure you flap the old lips on the forums, but there's only a few doing anything in game.

Hell i get farmed by random players and my own side more than you lot.

Then of course there's the all time classic hypocrisy of you buying an account whilst simultaneously whining about dollar spending. I mean seriously, it's like going to a comedy club reading your posts sometimes.

Oh i agree FUALL is far from perfect, hell the game really is starting to look and feel old, boring and pretty much dead, certainly to me, but if you guys seriously expect us to say "yep, it's draw" lmao, oh man, just typing it here makes my sides hurt from laughter.

I'd give a draw to a couple of noteworthy individual players, but the HR/TTF as a whole? Just never going to happen, period. Why? Simple, not actually earned it.

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

only a noob would still beleive that ranking is important and determines winners and looser. when was the last time you massed anything? never so go back to following orders in DOC and leave this to people who actually know what its about.

R8 TDL wrote:

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

only a noob would still beleive that ranking is important and determines winners and looser. when was the last time you massed anything? never so go back to following orders in DOC and leave this to people who actually know what its about.

when was the last time you had anything worth massing?

Borek wrote:

R8 TDL wrote:

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

only a noob would still beleive that ranking is important and determines winners and looser. when was the last time you massed anything? never so go back to following orders in DOC and leave this to people who actually know what its about.

when was the last time you had anything worth massing?

hmm suprised to see you around borek. even more suprised to see you claiming to be FUALL. but the best bit is you saying i havent got anything to mass when you have absolute crap. oh and my defence is bigger then yours and more spies then you but thats nothing nowdays is it. all i ever get is people checking for ms thats all it comes down to ms battles and nothing more.

Borek wrote:

R8 TDL wrote:

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

only a noob would still beleive that ranking is important and determines winners and looser. when was the last time you massed anything? never so go back to following orders in DOC and leave this to people who actually know what its about.

when was the last time you had anything worth massing?

do u remember "7 farms and borek" ???, Roket u r new in this war unless u changed any name, but i rem very well what rank some had and they used to be the strongest account i ve seen.

R8 TDL wrote:

Borek wrote:

R8 TDL wrote:

RoKeT wrote:how did we not win, look at our alliance rankings, look at our members deffenses, look at yours, o thats right there isn't any

only a noob would still beleive that ranking is important and determines winners and looser. when was the last time you massed anything? never so go back to following orders in DOC and leave this to people who actually know what its about.

when was the last time you had anything worth massing?

hmm suprised to see you around borek. even more surprised to see you claiming to be FUALL. but the best bit is you saying i haven't got anything to mass when you have absolute crap. oh and my defense is bigger then yours and more spies then you but that's nothing nowadays is it. all i ever get is people checking for ms that's all it comes down to ms battles and nothing more.

Take a look at your empire then R8, the "absolute crap" i have right now is more than 99% of you lot have on a good day, let alone after our big guns come calling and clean out the trash.

I haven't been actively playing for the best part of 6 months and i still have and maintain more than your inept allies manage to build, apart from the traditional 6 days ppt runs for ascension anyway. Something i remember your side laughing about when i was doing it, until you realized what an advantage 23x ascended actually gives and copied me.

Lithium, you still trolling the forums i see and doing precious little in game? Nothing changes i see *yawn*

borek you and JMX one and the same. ex players kicked out, washed out nothing left and want to feel important so you throw some "you dont mass me no more" insults at us. point is you dont even get a mention anymore from neither side. i had forgot about you until i saw your dual sticking out one day

wasnt it a while ago i massed your ms or your defence and you came back did mine and then you sent a message saying you dont bother massing people anymore? why you expect me to come visit your 70 bill defence?

and now lith omega is like all farms and forgotten borek