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Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:28 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
P.S.
if your going to ban me then ban me, i couldn't give a rats backside BUT...i want to know why you chose to address me in your official MOD capacity...or was it because you simply disagree? because as far as i am concerned and aware of, i am entitled to my opinions and have not broken any forum rules.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:07 am
by Mister Sandman
[KMA]Avenger wrote:P.S.
if your going to ban me then ban me, i couldn't give a rats backside BUT...i want to know why you chose to address me in your official MOD capacity...or was it because you simply disagree? because as far as i am concerned and aware of, i am entitled to my opinions and have not broken any forum rules.
I like how you think, keep posting, but more credible evidence.Patty Hughes wrote:the guy is just a guy, anyone can have a deluded opinion, it takes a degree for you to justify it.
It is not deluded. Its common sense. There are few options how this war will work out.
It is simple; If you don't want to be chased by a lion don't provoke it.
I personally have friends in Israel. And say that if it weren't for the Palestinians provoking the Israel army this conflict would of not escalated if not slowed down..
As the saying goes, put your hand in a fire, your going get burned.
I believe, that Palestinians can live freely, without fighting. If they did not resist and made peace, there would be peace. Israelis are very peaceful people.
So the options are; 1. Fight to the death. In which we know who is going to loose. 2. Disperse, go into different countries. 3. Just accept just rule. 4. Work with Israel in finding a fair and peaceful way to live together, ether being under one or two governments.
There are extremists on each side. No doubt. However, it was the move of firing, and attacking Israel. Its like Mexico firing into the United States.
Increase the peace. Increase tolerance.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:58 pm
by SSG EnterTheLion
What many people don't know is that the Jews threatened bombings across London if they didn't get the state of Israel. But you know what, it was inevitable that Israel would be reborn. The holocaust had created such a wave of sympathy for this once despised race.
Ok so Israel was born. And the Israelis did a fine job of creating a new state. Israel is an advanced nation in terms of industry/ tech etc. Now the point whether they should be allowed to exist? I would say yes. They have earned the right by right of victory in wars against their muslem neighbours. If you disagree with that, why don't the muslems of say Turkey give up Constantinople, one of the great Christian domains. One of christendom's greatest churches is now a mosque, the Hagia Sophia. Most of the islamic world today was gained through the sword, so they can't complain when Israel uses their policies against them.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:04 pm
by Ashu
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:despised race
They are not a race friend(we are all HUMANS)...But all in all i agree with you!
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:48 am
by [KMA]Avenger
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:What many people don't know is that the Jews threatened bombings across London if they didn't get the state of Israel. But you know what, it was inevitable that Israel would be reborn. The holocaust had created such a wave of sympathy for this once despised race.
Ok so Israel was born. And the Israelis did a fine job of creating a new state. Israel is an advanced nation in terms of industry/ tech etc. Now the point whether they should be allowed to exist? I would say yes. They have earned the right by right of victory in wars against their muslem neighbours. If you disagree with that, why don't the muslems of say Turkey give up Constantinople, one of the great Christian domains. One of christendom's greatest churches is now a mosque, the Hagia Sophia. Most of the islamic world today was gained through the sword, so they can't complain when Israel uses their policies against them.
is this the
real ETL?
good to have you back matey, its been a while since we last spoke, how ya doing?
back on topic:
erm...as i'm sure you know, palestine was stolen and given to the Zionists, unlike say the Falklands which were conquered and subsequently defended by the brits.
please show me where the Zionists won the land by the sword
anyways, the last time a nation committed the atrocity's that israel is committing, the whole world went to war and spared no expense in doing so....
but israel is israel and we cant be telling israel what to do now, can we?!?!
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:40 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
[KMA]Avenger wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:What many people don't know is that the Jews threatened bombings across London if they didn't get the state of Israel. But you know what, it was inevitable that Israel would be reborn. The holocaust had created such a wave of sympathy for this once despised race.
Ok so Israel was born. And the Israelis did a fine job of creating a new state. Israel is an advanced nation in terms of industry/ tech etc. Now the point whether they should be allowed to exist? I would say yes. They have earned the right by right of victory in wars against their muslem neighbours. If you disagree with that, why don't the muslems of say Turkey give up Constantinople, one of the great Christian domains. One of christendom's greatest churches is now a mosque, the Hagia Sophia. Most of the islamic world today was gained through the sword, so they can't complain when Israel uses their policies against them.
is this the
real ETL?
good to have you back matey, its been a while since we last spoke, how ya doing?
back on topic:
erm...as i'm sure you know, palestine was stolen and given to the Zionists, unlike say the Falklands which were conquered and subsequently defended by the brits.
please show me where the Zionists won the land by the sword
anyways, the last time a nation committed the atrocity's that israel is committing, the whole world went to war and spared no expense in doing so....
but israel is israel and we cant be telling israel what to do now, can we?!?!
The land wasn't stolen..it was conquered/ruled by Britain. According to the right of conquest followed by every power through out history, one can do what one wants with conquered territory. So in the 40s, it was decided to create a Zionist AND an Arab state of Palestine, basically 2 states. The Jews agreed, but the Arabs did not. As soon as British troops withdrew and Israel declared it's part independent (I say it's own part, not the Palestinian people's part), 4 Arab nations attack it. By the end of the war, which Israel won, it turned out that it now possessed much more land than it initially wanted..basically spoils of war. So one could claim the Arab states screwed over their own Arab Palestinians. And of course, since then there has been trouble between the two parties, until a few years ago Israel reached out and gave up territory it had conquered to the Palestinians so they could have their own state again. That should have been the end of it! But no, Hamas and it's allies have a vendetta shared by almost the entire muslem world to wipe out Israel. And no nation worth it's salt is going to stand by and let it's citizens be attacked in their own country.
And yep it's me mate. For a while, some Legion scum had control of my forum and ingame accounts, but I have it back.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:42 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
Ashu wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:despised race
They are not a race friend(we are all HUMANS)...But all in all i agree with you!
lol I didn't say I despised them..I said that historically Jews have been despised..mainly due to their percieved money making and money hoarding ability I guess
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:03 pm
by Thriller
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:What many people don't know is that the Jews threatened bombings across London if they didn't get the state of Israel. But you know what, it was inevitable that Israel would be reborn. The holocaust had created such a wave of sympathy for this once despised race.
Ok so Israel was born. And the Israelis did a fine job of creating a new state. Israel is an advanced nation in terms of industry/ tech etc. Now the point whether they should be allowed to exist? I would say yes. They have earned the right by right of victory in wars against their muslem neighbours. If you disagree with that, why don't the muslems of say Turkey give up Constantinople, one of the great Christian domains. One of christendom's greatest churches is now a mosque, the Hagia Sophia. Most of the islamic world today was gained through the sword, so they can't complain when Israel uses their policies against them.
is this the
real ETL?
good to have you back matey, its been a while since we last spoke, how ya doing?
back on topic:
erm...as i'm sure you know, palestine was stolen and given to the Zionists, unlike say the Falklands which were conquered and subsequently defended by the brits.
please show me where the Zionists won the land by the sword
anyways, the last time a nation committed the atrocity's that israel is committing, the whole world went to war and spared no expense in doing so....
but israel is israel and we cant be telling israel what to do now, can we?!?!
The land wasn't stolen..it was conquered/ruled by Britain. According to the right of conquest followed by every power through out history, one can do what one wants with conquered territory. So in the 40s, it was decided to create a Zionist AND an Arab state of Palestine, basically 2 states. The Jews agreed, but the Arabs did not. As soon as British troops withdrew and Israel declared it's part independent (I say it's own part, not the Palestinian people's part), 4 Arab nations attack it. By the end of the war, which Israel won, it turned out that it now possessed much more land than it initially wanted..basically spoils of war. So one could claim the Arab states screwed over their own Arab Palestinians. And of course, since then there has been trouble between the two parties, until a few years ago Israel reached out and gave up territory it had conquered to the Palestinians so they could have their own state again. That should have been the end of it! But no, Hamas and it's allies have a vendetta shared by almost the entire muslem world to wipe out Israel. And no nation worth it's salt is going to stand by and let it's citizens be attacked in their own country.
And yep it's me mate. For a while, some Legion scum had control of my forum and ingame accounts, but I have it back.
ETL, the story you gave is disengeneous to the history of this conflict, both sides share alot of blame and neither has any moral high ground left to stand ON.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:03 pm
by Ashu
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Ashu wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:despised race
They are not a race friend(we are all HUMANS)...But all in all i agree with you!
lol I didn't say I despised them..I said that historically Jews have been despised..mainly due to their percieved money making and money hoarding ability I guess
Actually i only pointed out the lack of contextual validity for the word "race" in this case.
Re: should the state of Israel be allowed to exist...
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:39 pm
by SSG EnterTheLion
Ashu wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Ashu wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:despised race
They are not a race friend(we are all HUMANS)...But all in all i agree with you!
lol I didn't say I despised them..I said that historically Jews have been despised..mainly due to their percieved money making and money hoarding ability I guess
Actually i only pointed out the lack of contextual validity for the word "race" in this case.
lmao, ok then religious group. Seriously, of all the things to argue about, you pick that? Normal conversation isn't always based on official definitions of words. For instance, it's common to hear 'muslem race', black race etc even though neither of them are valid. It's just an expression used, whether rightly or wrongly. As long as the intention of the post is understood, I couldn't care less. I don't spend time re-reading my posts and correcting any potential errors. I know it matters to some on this forum to be word perfect, as if it denotes extra intelligence but honestly, all it demonstrates is that someone regards certain things like their command of the English language important to them.