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Thriller wrote:See, your an idiot...

Basic skills of fight of words, we know you got them. I had to adapt to the level the discussing went. I know I should know better, oh well...

No one is talking about giving people the freedom to kill one another.

Yet you were the one talking about the success of forcing others beliefs over centuries about everything and nothing. And then act all shocked when I follow that. Don't get off topic if you don't want others to do same.

It's the freedom to wear an over sized bed sheet.

Yes after you went off topic countless times, did a beginner rapper's diss to me to look tough ("boo I insulted your intelligence!"), sorry to have lost the topic after your countless derailing.

You have taken everything to the extreme. (If I spill a glass of water on my floor you can hardly call that a flood. )

Oh because you didn't? That's probably even more funny than my little matrix metaphor.
I am an ignorant retard childish uneducated bigot and I'm too lazy to carry on the list. Might I point out half of that was not thrown only at my arguments but at my person as well.

I obviously do know more about French history than you because the leaders of the French revolution would be laughing at you right now. Like i am now.

That is even more funny that the other one. I am studying history in university, I succeded 90% of my exams since I joined this course, I'm in my third year next year. Of course french revolution was among the courses, and we spent several monthes on that. So, what were you saying already?

I have been to france before, and ate along side you arrogant pricks. I even scored with one your women. Ah Melony.. we will always have Paris.

Congrats?

Must be a terrible university. Or are you a fist year? Let me know when you get to your thesis.

IN your view, what were the main causes(or driving forces) which incited the revolution?

Thriller wrote:Must be a terrible university. Or are you a fist year? Let me know when you get to your thesis.

IN your view, what were the main causes(or driving forces) which incited the revolution?

Considering you have a great knowledge about things, I'm sure you know about La Sorbonne, isn't it?

That is even more funny that the other one. I am studying history in university, I succeded 90% of my exams since I joined this course, I'm in my third year next year. Of course french revolution was among the courses, and we spent several monthes on that. So, what were you saying already?

That means I graduated my second year and am on my way to third one.
Thesis? Why would I go that far? Spending 7 years in the university to be a specialist abut something very narrow and exclusive...not my wish. A Master is way sufficient!

What caused the revolution? It's simple, the disappointment of population when Jacques Necker's propositions weren't accepted due to pressure from the aristocracy and clercs didn't help, even though it happend in early 1780's, I think it was one of first reasons. Monarchy wanted to reform itself under L XVI reign, however it didn't work, because priviledged society isn't easy to reform. I personally consider it the first cause of the revolution, even if it happend way before the demands were recolted around the nation in 1788-1789, there's always past events who caused it. Well, Louis XVI was actually among the best kings we had in my opinion, but his problem was that he wasn't understood and elites considered him to be simple minded and weak, and thus tried to manipulate him. And the succeded. He was liked by people, but I think the lack of support within his family, "allies" and other elites have been a problem and that's what caused his downfall. Well, it depends what you mean by the Revolution, because it had different steps. July 1789? August 4th and the abolishment of priviledges? Arrestation of Louis XVI in Varennes in 1791? The abolishment of monarchy in august 1792?


I think I also have the right to build my own opinion and whatever my university might be...the best or the worst, I'm not meant to act as if I was their "spokesperson".


Anyway...that semester when we learnt it was likely to be the semester of chaos, because when we were meant to learn Revolution well started a strike by teachers in universities and mine was involved until end of semester lol. So we had a third of courses we were meant to, and we saw historical movies, read few books (escape of Louis XVI to Varennes was one of those) but it wasn't "normal courses". Half people failed their exams, and I managed to earn myself a 15/20 (not even sure, don't remember, but I know it was above 14/20) average between homework and exam we had.
To validate an exam you must have at least 10/20 btw.

I think that over half of friends I had in primary school/secondary school didn't go anywhere near succeeding second year of university (or even entering university), because I don't come from an upper class background who usually doesn't know what a "ghetto suburb" means else than on tv and movies.

I see where your political slant lies now.

See, im more libertarian like that Maximilien Robespierre guy, except for the blood lust part.

And you actually identify with King Louis XVI, which makes you probably more authoritarian. Even if he though he did reinstate parliament(he did that for his own selfish reasons).

So your defense of this issue is probably rooted in a belief that people need to be controlled. Your reasoning is probably filled with non sequiturs because you desperately want to hold on to this idea.

You should consider how historians go about figuring out the facts of history, Instead of just memorizing a bunch of people, times and dates. Learn how your professors sort the good from the bad and interpret that information to form a coherent idea of the period of time ... or at least take a logic course.


I Leave you with this; April 24, 1793 - Declaration des droits de l'homme
"Any law which violates the inalienable rights of man is essentially unjust and tyrannical; it is not a law at all."

Rawr I'm a dinosaur



Down with the world where people's rights are considered, "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will hurt forever" - When did this become the motto of society?

LegendaryA wrote:http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=2.00&soc=4.10


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Redid the test, and that didn't change much, well, a little...

http://www.politicalcompass.org/printab ... &soc=-3.69

I'm not too far off Gandhi. I liked how Jo was part way between Hitler and Thatcher

RepliMagni wrote:http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-5.00&soc=-3.69

I'm not too far off Gandhi. I liked how Jo was part way between Hitler and Thatcher

According to this test I'm a moderate Hitler (rather less authoritarian but close economically), frightening!


Seriously though, I thought I would be closer to José Maria Aznar and Nicolas Sarkozy, but apparently I'm not according to the analysis..
I'm closest to Romano Prodi.