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Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:39 pm
by Scar Face
Clarkey wrote:Reading these posts would answer your questions.

But anyway....

Defence increased to 1.3t because weps got stronger and att and def planets doubled.
att and def planets doubling was a bug and is now fixed.... hence dropping to 880b

The negative repair was a bug that got fixed.


My defence planets stats are still bigger by a multiplier of 1,3 or so.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:41 pm
by MaxSterling
Forum wrote:if it is pointless, and it does not bother you, good enough for me ;)
MaxSterling wrote:Personally, don't really see the need to double the att and def weapon power. That was kinda pointless since your loss calculations are pretty much based on ratios anyways.


MaxSterling wrote:How do you nerf the effect if you're in essence allowing people to train half as many supers than before to get the full bonus of your planets and MS?


I fail to see how you're encouraging defenses and losses, if you're reducing the number they need to train...

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:44 pm
by Wepwaet
It has to deal with lessening the effect on those with massive planets who would have had to train twice the number of supers to take advantage of the planets they'd already built up.


Edit: Some still will need more supers but the amount needed is in effect cut in half now. It's fallout from the treating planet bonuses individually instead of averaging them.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:45 pm
by whereub
Clarkey wrote:
whereub wrote:well i dont know what happened ... but my def was 660 before updates ... then it went to 1.3 tril .... now its dropped to 880 bil :-s


also my def weapons had a negative repair on them that is gone too

Reading these posts would answer your questions.

But anyway....

Defence increased to 1.3t because weps got stronger and att and def planets doubled.
att and def planets doubling was a bug and is now fixed.... hence dropping to 880b

The negative repair was a bug that got fixed.


well something is still wrong ... i added 100k supers it went up 140 bil ...
added another 100k... it went up 10 bill

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:50 pm
by MaxSterling
whereub wrote:well something is still wrong ... i added 100k supers it went up 140 bil ...
added another 100k... it went up 10 bill

Did you arm them?

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:52 pm
by whereub
yes i have armed mercs

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:04 pm
by MaxSterling
Wepwaet wrote:It has to deal with lessening the effect on those with massive planets who would have had to train twice the number of supers to take advantage of the planets they'd already built up.

I think redistributing those stats evenly amongst all the other planets would have been a better solution or possibly even reimbursing those players with naq.

He's now made it so that 200k defense supers will now give someone a 100b defense... how can that possibly be good?

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:06 pm
by BMMJ13
Scar Face wrote:
Clarkey wrote:Reading these posts would answer your questions.

But anyway....

Defence increased to 1.3t because weps got stronger and att and def planets doubled.
att and def planets doubling was a bug and is now fixed.... hence dropping to 880b

The negative repair was a bug that got fixed.


My defence planets stats are still bigger by a multiplier of 1,3 or so.

I agree. Mine was 60, went to 120, now it's back to 80. I believe it was doubled, then trying to fix it it took off half of what was added, but is still messed up.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:09 pm
by Forum
the def planets add more now, than before.
the doubling of def and att planets is fixed.
mercs do not add as much as supers, for sure. and adding supers will possibly allow some planets to add more, but over a certain point, the planet will not help your att/def if it is at hte point where the planet is >50% of your natural value.

next turn should see the strike/def/cov/ac values set properly....

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:10 pm
by MaxSterling
BMMJ13 wrote:
Scar Face wrote:
Clarkey wrote:Reading these posts would answer your questions.

But anyway....

Defence increased to 1.3t because weps got stronger and att and def planets doubled.
att and def planets doubling was a bug and is now fixed.... hence dropping to 880b

The negative repair was a bug that got fixed.


My defence planets stats are still bigger by a multiplier of 1,3 or so.

I agree. Mine was 60, went to 120, now it's back to 80. I believe it was doubled, then trying to fix it it took off half of what was added, but is still messed up.

Try and keep up you guys...

Forum wrote:and on the planet def is now slightly more benefit than att -fitting with the whole def theme of the updates.
yes, it was meant to make it...it is now live.
MaxSterling wrote:*One note... I thought that it was said in the admin meets that costs for defense planets would = those for attack planets.

Planet Attribute: + 200,000,880,000 Defence
555,558,000 Naquadah per next increase

Planet Attribute: + 200,001,150,000 Attack.
444,447,000 Naquadah per next increase

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:12 pm
by Travis Dane
Since thru these updates our accounts have enhanced, so is the time in which inactive farms will have to build up naq - my question regarding these enhancements is what was the least amount of time given for a ppt after installation of the updates. Woot Woot - Vegamatic !!!!

Or did u give all accounts the same amount of ppt time ??

As my ppt will drop at 9:25 tomorrow night but yet all the Euros(unless 3rd shifters will be in bed)

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:12 pm
by Forum
but its so hard!!! ;)
MaxSterling wrote:Try and keep up you guys...

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:16 pm
by Scar Face
Scar Face wrote:I'm not to happy with the doubling of the attack and defence. That made any planets(with a attack or defence stat)pretty much uselles, compared to before. Example:

200bill defence before from planets was in a ratio of 1:1 to a before 200bill attack

200bill defence before from planets is now in a ratio of 1:2 to a before 200bill attack(now 400bill)

Is that cool for all the people that invested heaps of naq into their planets? [-(


Missed that sorry, how about these one :P

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:20 pm
by Forum
at worst, it would be a percemt more useless than before (since if it added, on its own, 50% to final value, it would now add 25% to final value) -not totally useless ;)

at best, if it was 2x the size of your natural defense, it was not utilizing all its powers. now it would :)

the reality is that natural strike and def are now stronger. to match 50% of it, does take more resource.
as well, def did get a bit of a boost over att -- so on def, its not quite as bad :)

another plus, is they are easier to defend at least ;)

Scar Face wrote:
Scar Face wrote:I'm not to happy with the doubling of the attack and defence. That made any planets(with a attack or defence stat)pretty much uselles, compared to before. Example:

200bill defence before from planets was in a ratio of 1:1 to a before 200bill attack

200bill defence before from planets is now in a ratio of 1:2 to a before 200bill attack(now 400bill)

Is that cool for all the people that invested heaps of naq into their planets? [-(


Missed that sorry, how about these one :P

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:21 pm
by MaxSterling
Forum wrote:but its so hard!!! ;)
MaxSterling wrote:Try and keep up you guys...

Funny thing is... I'm usually just too damn lazy to read. Do me a favor and let me know when it comes out on dvd... :P