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Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:34 pm
by Dow
Just started watching thanks for the tip!!

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:17 am
by Zeratul
It probably helped for the role that we'd seen him in the role of "lord Vetinari" in the discworld movie "going postal". A highly methodical ruler who has his own ways of doing things.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:22 am
by Noobert
Do not be so angry, Semper. The WoT series was amazing. [-(

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:37 am
by semper
Perhaps.. but not when compared to masterpieces such as GoT (SOIF) or LOTR.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:21 pm
by Noobert
Semper wrote:Perhaps.. but not when compared to masterpieces such as GoT (SOIF) or LOTR.

Lord of the Rings doesn't have **Filtered** on Wheel of Time.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:22 am
by Zeratul
Lord of the rings is far better. of course, papa tolkien was somewhat of the belief that girls don't exist below the neck, but still, he did make excellent stories... (try counting up how many girl hobbits there are... girl mind you, not baby/toddler or grown-up matrons... You know, the stages between those...)

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:05 am
by Noobert
Zeratul wrote:Lord of the rings is far better. of course, papa tolkien was somewhat of the belief that girls don't exist below the neck, but still, he did make excellent stories... (try counting up how many girl hobbits there are... girl mind you, not baby/toddler or grown-up matrons... You know, the stages between those...)

I disagree, but this is based around the movies and not the books. So my opinion could differ, however comparing the two universes based on that observation - Wheel of Time is far better.

I forgot to mention - Sauron's power could decimate everything simply by wearing the ring. Just remember that Semper. :-$

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:15 am
by RepliMagni
I've not read GoT books....I want to read them all as a set, so I may be waiting a while.

As for the merits of WoT and LoTR - LoTR trumps WoT everyday for me. I think both could have used a much better editor in terms of style/length/repetition, etc, but in terms of plots LoTR and its accompanying backstory is far more compelling for me.

Problem with WoT are the huge amounts of inconsistencies - balefire undoing a person's history?! Things like Rand whining what the kings are doing near Camelyn for three books instead of popping over and asking them?! Lan apparently travelling across country for three books?! Forsaken dying only to then be brought back to life?!

Don't get me wrong, there are bits/characters of WoT that I absolutely love. But when taken as a whole, he seems to just ramble from one thing to another with no overall coherence...whereas Tolkien weaved a whole history far more compellingly...

*hides*

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:47 am
by Noobert
RepliMagni wrote:I've not read GoT books....I want to read them all as a set, so I may be waiting a while.

As for the merits of WoT and LoTR - LoTR trumps WoT everyday for me. I think both could have used a much better editor in terms of style/length/repetition, etc, but in terms of plots LoTR and its accompanying backstory is far more compelling for me.

Problem with WoT are the huge amounts of inconsistencies - balefire undoing a person's history?! Things like Rand whining what the kings are doing near Camelyn for three books instead of popping over and asking them?! Lan apparently travelling across country for three books?! Forsaken dying only to then be brought back to life?!

Don't get me wrong, there are bits/characters of WoT that I absolutely love. But when taken as a whole, he seems to just ramble from one thing to another with no overall coherence...whereas Tolkien weaved a whole history far more compellingly...

*hides*

Balefire completely erases the person's existence. There are many lives, and in each life that person lives again just in another form with no prior memories but they aspire to the previous life.

I do not believe Rand had discovered traveling until later in the series, so he could not understand what the people were doing near Camelyn. As well as it would progress his "illness", if you will, further if he jumps like that constantly.

I do not remember Lan traveling across country for three books..?

The Forsaken dying and coming back to life is obvious considering he has transcended death itself. Example being..

The Dark One is the oldest and most powerful force of evil in all worlds, and although one might assume that he is the source of all evil, it is suggested that he intensifies the evil feelings of humans, as well as giving new motives for malignant, lowly, or simply chaotic acts. He is said to have been imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time, and has sought ever since to break free of his prison and break the Wheel of Time and remake the world according to his image and purpose.

As for the next book, it is in it's final stages. The middle of the series rambled on, true, but with the addition to Brandon Sanderon's writing it gave it a better edge. It lessened the rambling, and intensified the action.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:22 am
by semper
Noobert wrote:
Semper wrote:Perhaps.. but not when compared to masterpieces such as GoT (SOIF) or LOTR.

Lord of the Rings doesn't have **Filtered** on Wheel of Time.


Yeah but you would say that because you're an anime lover and they do all that repetitive over powered waste of time nonsense that WoT does amazingly well too. They all have merits but WoT is just a bloated fantasy version of DBZ to put it simply.

As for Sauron. IF he wore the ring.. he was a god manifested in the physical.. the point being IF. Tolkein doesn't go there because it's ridiculous. Where as RJ does go there with Rand and that's what makes it ridiculous.. not only that but we also have access to the Dark One, the fallen and the creator who are all suped up powerful too.. and Matt is far from a pushover too. LOTR you've got Sauron and if you read the Similarrion you've got Morgoth, who had the power but didn't use it.. hell he was pwned by lowly elves pretty much and Sauron was hammered by men! Everyone else with that level of army decimating single handedly powers were not on the same chess board.

The power was realistic with flaws.. in WoT they had the whole corruption thing to deal with but Super-Rand takes the taint away. :roll:

WoT just is the Japanese anime of fantasy literature. Repetition, over-powered heroes and villians decimating semantics to seem more awesome than reason gives way for. Why does the creator imprision the Dark one rather than just kill it? To preserve evil? Isn't there evil without an evil boss... #-o Anime's good for mindless fun but for books it's mere hokum. No wonder you like it Naruto. XD

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:57 am
by Zeratul
Tolkiens elves were once far greater than in the LotR. As time passed, they grew less powerful.
Wielding the ring, Sauron could obviously crush any elf of the third era. It is more questionable whether he could have defeated any elf of the caliber of Fingolfin... But then, Fingolfin scared even Morgoth...

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:23 pm
by Dow
Cant stand LOTR ths ish way better!! Closer to rome than anything else. Did have a dam art lecturer that would quote everything to LOTR so that prob doesn't help but hey I rebeled and gots meh self a warning. meeh I still hold the record.

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:52 pm
by Psyko
17 DAYS!

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:00 pm
by Juliette
Psyko wrote:17 DAYS!
:smt081 Dragonzzz!

Re: Game of Thrones

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:44 pm
by Lithium
dragons, fights and hot chicks :)