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Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

thats YOUR BOOK..in case somebody hasnt smacked you with a dose of reality lemm be the one..YOU go by whats in YOUR BOOK. Nobody else does. You forget 1 thing mister..in the time when OE was floundering (maybe too harsh a word but there it is) in the server war..it was good ole JT and Rodwolf's Mayhem monsters that dug in deep dawg..and Ill say this, if it werent for us keeping pace with TA Massers ya'll would have been done then. Thats then this is now, fact is we were busting ass to keep FUALL intact, you werent, and in the final analysis you still let it get **Filtered**.

yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And remember, when Mayhem were removed from OE, JT offered them a place in DDE. Since FUALL actually existed then, THAT was a betrayal!

Incorrect.

DDE offered mH a spot months before that. Well knowing mH was the only active part back then in OE (except for some individuals). So it was not offered just after your little show to save your face. mH decided itself to leave but only after a last talk with OE HC, only to be 'booted' before talks as 'traitors'.

I can understand you do not know the facts from back then seeing you then were playing WOW for over a year leaving the rule and hard work over to others...

And he repeated the offer when we kicked Mayhem. I do recall being informed it was an 'open' offer. So at both times the offer was made, it was against FUALL rules. It would be equivalent to me offering an entire DDE alliance to join OE, while being allied to the DDE.

umm no, things do not happen according to your grand design or speculations. there was no reason to rescend an offer to Mayhem..it wasnt even an offer, it was an open invitation for one, many or all of Mayhem to come to DDE when or if they CHOSE to accept it..as a matter of fact this invitation was extended more than months before you betrayed them..it was well over a year. At or about that time Alpha was considering detaching from you as well and if they wished to remain in FUALL they were welcome to cross over..so you see..these things were done on our behalf at those times to preserve FUALL as best we could..not to cause harm to it..something to consider there.

But with all of tha said, we werent atively recruiting OE members for ourselves (unlike someone we all know) or using moles...which is a breach of any treaty wether it be an allegiance or any other pact.

'Open invitation' in my book is an offer! As for Alpha, you and I both know that's crap. You really think an alliance would move to another with Rodwolf as a friend. I had no problems with him, but Alphans had MAJOR issues with him. As for individual members, I've never stopped or sat on them for leaving OE, but the name Alpha Allegiance belongs to the OE, just as the NAME DXM rightfully belong to DDE.

As for us trying to recruit, yet another assumption, just like OE and TL had supposedly signed a Pact! Even when we were allied, I never objected if an OE member joined DDE.

thats YOUR BOOK..in case somebody hasnt smacked you with a dose of reality lemm be the one..YOU go by whats in YOUR BOOK. Nobody else does. You forget 1 thing mister..in the time when OE was floundering (maybe too harsh a word but there it is) in the server war..it was good ole JT and Rodwolf's Mayhem monsters that dug in deep dawg..and Ill say this, if it werent for us keeping pace with TA Massers ya'll would have been done then. Thats then this is now, fact is we were busting ass to keep FUALL intact, you werent, and in the final analysis you still let it get **Filtered**.

yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

no rudy, not certain members..just the 1 and with legit reason..and the reason has to suit us, not you..anyways..its done.

Rudy Pena wrote: yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

Rodwolf wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote: yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

How can you know, you didn't even have any HC position back then. I could be wrong, but I don't think you were even OE atm.

And for me its only logical that people who don't play and don't know what's going around in the game don't take the HC positions. Furthermore there were no threats of massing alphans ( another ETL lie), and yes I did mass 2 alphans months before mH left OE for being total douches(random massing people), but that was personal and mH had nothing to see with that. They deserved it, but looking back at it now I shouldn't have massed them.

Anyway, it's all in the past ,and I don't want to keep rambling about those things but I can't stand the lies and convenient 'truths' some people tell on here. I guess all that stuff have led to the current bad feelings between both alliances.

Rudy Pena wrote:

Rodwolf wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote: yes busting ass to keep it intact by demanding certain members be kicked or removed from HC positions within OE.

How can you know, you didn't even have any HC position back then. I could be wrong, but I don't think you were even OE atm.

And for me its only logical that people who don't play and don't know what's going around in the game don't take the HC positions. Furthermore there were no threats of massing alphans ( another ETL lie), and yes I did mass 2 alphans months before mH left OE for being total douches(random massing people), but that was personal and mH had nothing to see with that. They deserved it, but looking back at it now I shouldn't have massed them.

Anyway, it's all in the past ,and I don't want to keep rambling about those things but I can't stand the lies and convenient 'truths' some people tell on here. I guess all that stuff have led to the current bad feelings between both alliances.

Not having HC access, doesnt mean that some members didnt know what was going on back then.

Also that was not the only time JT/DDE did that. JT/DDE wanted myself kicked out of OE or at the very least not in a HC postion within OE, in order for there to be a DRA.

Rudy Pena wrote:JT/DDE doesnt dicate what OE does and doesnt do.


Now go back to playing chess with your old friends talking about when gas was 5 cents a gallon.

Rudy Pena wrote:JT/DDE doesnt dicate what OE does and doesnt do.


Now go back to playing chess with your old friends talking about when gas was 5 cents a gallon.

Kjarkur wrote:If OE and DDE war, others will be pulled into it.

So who knows.

(often in wars the top members while on PPT train lots of spies to keep the alliance in top rankings, so might still be either TDD or Omega)

caesar2 wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:If OE and DDE war, others will be pulled into it.

So who knows.

(often in wars the top members while on PPT train lots of spies to keep the alliance in top rankings, so might still be either TDD or Omega)

Can you tell us names of those mentioned Otheres?
Am just curious

Well, but I do hope... URURUR Alliance will be the top one next weekend they deserve it

kaboom wrote:

caesar2 wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:If OE and DDE war, others will be pulled into it.

So who knows.

(often in wars the top members while on PPT train lots of spies to keep the alliance in top rankings, so might still be either TDD or Omega)

Can you tell us names of those mentioned Otheres?
Am just curious

Well, but I do hope... URURUR Alliance will be the top one next weekend they deserve it

Yeah those URURUR r on the rise ... i hear they even scare rob3rt

caesar2 wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:If OE and DDE war, others will be pulled into it.

So who knows.

(often in wars the top members while on PPT train lots of spies to keep the alliance in top rankings, so might still be either TDD or Omega)

Can you tell us names of those mentioned Otheres?
Am just curious

Well, but I do hope... URURUR Alliance will be the top one next weekend they deserve it

Rudy Pena wrote:
Go play chess with your old buddies and talk about the old days when gas was 5cents a gallon.