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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:52 am
by Forum
no changes are on the live server.
all changes will move over at once.
i can only guess at how long till it moves to live server, depends on feedback - if any changes big or small need to be made - and if any additional bugfixes or enhancements are suggested and accepted in this release.
i will say at least a week in order to test the balance of the ascended attacks & superweapon.
chaos resets in a couple weeks, so whether i sneak it in before that, or wait till after, is also a consideration, since i will need to do some work there too...
so - likely either a week -give or take - or 3 weeks - give or take.
since everyone has so patiently waited so long, it might be worth waiting a bit longer, and getting more into the release, and ensuring these updates are as balanced as possible.
but that is my thinking - end descision really lies with the community :)

there is also new security in this (the needs referrer stuff...) and i have just posted an extended error message for those that fail this check with ways to 'fix' it...if anyone gets the 'cannot determine referrer' error I'd appreciate if they try to fix it on the browser they got it on, with the instructions in the error message - to ensure I dont exclude people unnecessarily from playing :)

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:19 pm
by PSICOLIX
not sure i its a bug, but i did a hit on my gf acount.
the att was defended,
04:43 rafinha ascendedAttack Defended 99 11 0 3,395,188,195 6,333,409,307 details
Was result SHE lost all life force reserve. and thats not right.

as for the balance ASCENDED X Defence, don't matter much, since the pratical thing to do is mass the guy first, so its ok.

not sure if every1 else is also losing the reserves, but that why give a 20 mim time for 1-2 days woude be great to test.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:47 pm
by Respenus
I have another question.

Do you only deascend when someone attacks you? I attacked someone, much much higher in ranks and I lost all my LF, just 1 left in reserve. Do my best guess is that only some else, with a direct assault, can take you down.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:12 pm
by Forum
this is due to the 'dual nature' of ascended attacks. I 'fixed' the display on the logs -- i called it 'defend' if the army was not beat. removed the att/def strength (as what do you measure?), and the 'amount won/lost' is life force...
PSICOLIX wrote:not sure i its a bug, but i did a hit on my gf acount.
the att was defended,
04:43 rafinha ascendedAttack Defended 99 11 0 3,395,188,195 6,333,409,307 details
Was result SHE lost all life force reserve. and thats not right.

as for the balance ASCENDED X Defence, don't matter much, since the pratical thing to do is mass the guy first, so its ok.

not sure if every1 else is also losing the reserves, but that why give a 20 mim time for 1-2 days woude be great to test.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:14 pm
by Forum
i thought about you descending yourself on a really really failed attack, but decided against it :)
so you are left with 1 life. no reserve. and hoepfully enough embarassment not to do that again....
Respenus wrote:I have another question.

Do you only deascend when someone attacks you? I attacked someone, much much higher in ranks and I lost all my LF, just 1 left in reserve. Do my best guess is that only some else, with a direct assault, can take you down.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:21 pm
by Forum
Bid on the Ascended SuperWeapon.
Auction Expires in 1.53 Hours

soon someone will know the effects :)
be prepared to be blown away.

some additional facts on the superweapon:
2day ppt given on being hit by it.
30 day inability to be hit by the weapon again.
thinking (not yet coded) 60 day new account protection from weapon&ascended attacks.
24 hours from being hit, to getting weapon.
weapon can be used/auctioned or lost if neither done within 48hours of getting it.

when reaching the top, liklihood of getting hit by weapon obviously increases. so as you get higher, more focus should go to the 'raw stats', income, and growth rates -- opposed to a pure stockpile of resources.

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:27 pm
by Hensenshi
So then after being hit by it, one might be able to put the weapon up for bid and make up his losses with that?

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:36 pm
by Prior Or Ori
I think someone posted this already but not sure if it's the same. but on an ascended assault log... nothing major, just a couple spelling and grammar errors...

"It has will finish in 6 real hours (or 6 eons ingame time)."
just drop the has I believe...

also, the button for ascended assault, spells assault "assult". noticed this in several places in attack logs as well...
an example...
"Prior Or Ori ruthlessly and relentlessly assult the worlds, fleets and populations of , "...

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:44 pm
by Forum
i'll fix teh assult (guess i have been spelling it wrong for years) but the other one is past/future tense. its not "real" english, but english has no verb tense to talk about past and present in the same sentence, where linear time does not apply. some languages do - like the eskimo or other native indian races...some communities in the amazon too...but not english. So I create the tense :)
since you already HAD the battle, but are still HAVING the battle, and know when in the future the battle WILL be done. ... see the problem :)

Prior Or Ori wrote:I think someone posted this already but not sure if it's the same. but on an ascended assault log... nothing major, just a couple spelling and grammar errors...

"It has will finish in 6 real hours (or 6 eons ingame time)."
just drop the has I believe...

also, the button for ascended assault, spells assault "assult". noticed this in several places in attack logs as well...
an example...
"Prior Or Ori ruthlessly and relentlessly assult the worlds, fleets and populations of , "...

ASCENDED SUPERWEAPON

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:58 pm
by Shooting Star
Jason, I sent you a PM, regarding the superweapon. Please read! Right now, all I can say is WTH?!?

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:51 pm
by Shooting Star
OK for those of you who have been waiting with baited breath, here are the results of the Super Weapon:

You used the Ascended SuperWeapon on xxxx, the realm of xxxx!! You sense the following results, ontop of a strong strong feeling that you will be seeing xxxx, and their friends, very soon...
The following Offensive Fleets were Destroyed:
6 Nuclear Rockets
578 Macro Quantum Multiverse WorldShips
5 Dark Matter Enhanced Destroyers
24 Conventional Rockets
2 Space Vessels
The following Defensive Fleets were Destroyed:
8,173 Multiversic Phase Networks

The following Planetary and Planetary System Developments were eliminated, relegating the planets to undeveloped status:
all Guided
all Liberator
all Networked Liberator
all Guardian
all Networked Guardian
all Ghost
all UnSpoken

Freaking devastating! I'd buy that for a dollar! Woohoo! That's a splash of cold water in your face. I must say, not even I, the great Mojo Rising, was prepared for the devastation that this weapon wreaked.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:06 am
by Brendone
That is incredibly devestating, but does that mean that your command star, and fleets (at least attack, an possibly some defence?) are left intact? How many defense fleets did he have before 8,173 were destroyed?

And, are you given a ppt if it's used on you, if so, how long is it? Do you still get the weapon now if it's used on you?

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:35 am
by Hensenshi
With that kind of devastation, the only point of the weapon will be to auction back and forth between the big guys. Using it on anyone active would mean basically Mutual Assured Destruction or otherwise, MAD.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:54 am
by samson1111
all planets destroyed :? :shock:

samson scared
samson hides into the corner

I dont want to be hit with that weapon :cry:

I think thats way to powerfull... but thats only my opinion.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:12 am
by Ston
I dont think the super weapon is too powerful, even for the top guys it will be hard to purchase em -and cause we got no bank they will have to sell something to buy/bid for it -therfor opening up their accounts for attacks!
in return we know NOONE is safe from destruction if the weapon is used against em, even the top 5 guys!
and the ppt afterwards for the hit person isnt bad either.
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Mr. Forum, you had some time to look at the repulsion damage effect yet?
im still worrried if a 100% repulusion level will screw up the deascension-game.