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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:58 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
can SOMEONE get me in touch with looky?

thanks. this is kind've important to me.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:02 pm
by LBWMTE- D4rk S1de
I don't see how looky getting his account back will change ANYTHING- Bryan got his account back cos he's popular, looky didn't cos he wasn't popular, you guys haven't changed how forum treats people, you've just made looky popular, so yeh, great for looky, he gets his account back, but all the not so popular people still get ignored.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:04 pm
by Hensenshi
I think bryan recieved his account back because he was hacked. Looky was not, he just raided the wrong person at the wrong time.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:06 pm
by El TC
Hensenshi, you know exaclty why Bryan and the others where banned, are you not friends? did you not talk?

The whole community showed support for unfair banning, why now, after your friend has been unbanned do you not show the same curtecy for the other two?

And no, his account was hacked AFTER the banning took place I BELIEVE>

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:11 pm
by ~Artanis~
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:can SOMEONE get me in touch with looky?

thanks. this is kind've important to me.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

i would just want to point to not forget about moahmed,this is about both of them,not only looky so dont forget about it,i can contact him through mobil right now,pm me what would you need and if any progress is made in this,and ill talk to him about it,thx

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:14 pm
by El TC
I mean cammon, you guys even SAID and can be quoted on saying that you noticed this account, then assembled a strike team with Bryan and that ETL even confirmed Bryan telling him about it before the strike took place.

So you are saying it was actually the big bad hacker that talked to ETL?

no man, seriously....u know this was unfair on ALL the raiders, the guilty accounts were deleted aka j1mbo and his friends, you cannot unban one player just BECAUSE his account was hacked IN ADDITION TO and AFTER the ban, he was raiding and was at the wrong place at the wrong time JUST like the other two.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:19 pm
by Xeen
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:I think bryan recieved his account back because he was hacked. Looky was not, he just raided the wrong person at the wrong time.


Im not linked with admin as you are Hensenshi, but you are one who has my respect because of your honorable and adult acting.


But - look at this.

Yes It is difference.
1. Bryan was hacked because he used simple password, told his password to anyoone or played from unsecure area? If yes - he is only one who could be deleted - because it is his fault - NOT RESTORED.
2. Bryan was hacked because of system fault - then is right he WAS RESTORED.

It can show us here is no elitism in game if it is truth.

But main point still remains. Honorable playing is not enough to protect your account from unjustify deleting without explanation.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:24 pm
by Xeen
Also I just got information about Bryan was hacked AFTER UN-BAN.

So reason of his restoration was not because he has been hacked. Raiding was made by real Bryan. So THE SAME SITUATION as Looky and Mohammed.

Hacker damaged his account few days later. When Bryan problem -but not looky and mohammed- was already solved.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:28 pm
by Hensenshi
El TC wrote:Hensenshi, you know exaclty why Bryan and the others where banned, are you not friends? did you not talk?

The whole community showed support for unfair banning, why now, after your friend has been unbanned do you not show the same curtecy for the other two?

And no, his account was hacked AFTER the banning took place I BELIEVE>


Bryan was hacked, then his account was banned for raiding the account in question. Bryan had rank 1 strike, raiding any target basically was completely idiotic.

Looky on the other hand, was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they shouldn't be unbanned, far from it, I hope he gets his account back. I'm just straightening the facts.

Xeen wrote:
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:I think bryan recieved his account back because he was hacked. Looky was not, he just raided the wrong person at the wrong time.


Im not linked with admin as you are Hensenshi, but you are one who has my respect because of your honorable and adult acting.


But - look at this.

Yes It is difference.
1. Bryan was hacked because he used simple password, told his password to anyoone or played from unsecure area? If yes - he is only one who could be deleted - because it is his fault - NOT RESTORED.
2. Bryan was hacked because of system fault - then is right he WAS RESTORED.

It can show us here is no elitism in game if it is truth.

But main point still remains. Honorable playing is not enough to protect your account from unjustify deleting without explanation.


Linked to admin? How so? I've had 5 encounters with admin. He quoted me in the ascended forum twice, he quoted me in the image contest once, he misspelled my name once, and he's responded to one of my e-mails.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly, I think it's a language barrier problem though.

Xeen wrote:Also I just got information about Bryan was hacked AFTER UN-BAN.

So reason of his restoration was not because he has been hacked. Raiding was made by real Bryan. So THE SAME SITUATION as Looky and Mohammed.

Hacker damaged his account few days later. When Bryan problem -but not looky and mohammed- was already solved.


Bryan was hacked once before banning, which caused his ban, then hacked once after he was unbanned.

As always, I'm straightening the facts.

El TC wrote:I mean cammon, you guys even SAID and can be quoted on saying that you noticed this account, then assembled a strike team with Bryan and that ETL even confirmed Bryan telling him about it before the strike took place.

So you are saying it was actually the big bad hacker that talked to ETL?

no man, seriously....u know this was unfair on ALL the raiders, the guilty accounts were deleted aka j1mbo and his friends, you cannot unban one player just BECAUSE his account was hacked IN ADDITION TO and AFTER the ban, he was raiding and was at the wrong place at the wrong time JUST like the other two.


I raided j1mbo and was not banned. That's not the issue. The issue is that his account was cracked, then used to raid the same account that looky found, only the cracker was the one who was using bryan's account to raid said account.

EDIT: added in a few more replies.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
by ~Artanis~
he has his acount back,thats the most important,hopefully we are making progress as psi kiya trist wants to talk to looky and also jenny contacted me a while ago if i could get him on

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
by El TC
ok, so let me just get my head around this: Someone was pissed off at Bryan before this whole banning started, possibly and likely j1mbo. Reason for this was that Bryan reported J1mbos account to admin for possible dodgy activities, right?

Ok, so now J1mbo goes and gets jtests credentials, then gets Bryans credentials, hacks into Bryans account, fills up three ghost accounts with resources and starts raiding, my appologies, attacking these accounts with Bryans number one strike.

So therefore, the other two unlucky raiders caught up in this whole revenge thing are the two still banned now probably deleted players we talking about?

So Jason gets the story but nobody cares about the other two caught up in this, sees that Bryans account was hacked and unbans him, forgetting about the other two who were, as you say correctly, at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Was only unbanning Bryan fair? No
Was it right to not unban these two raiders, who did nothing more than raid like we all do, day and night, people like you and me that love the game so much?

It just sends out the wrong message, as Xeen pointed out, being honorable here does not guarantee you immunity against instant banning, apparently only good connections and a massive whirlwind of friends rooting for you on the forums making enough noise to get Jasons attention though I doubt he needs it since he knows what is going on.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:47 pm
by Hensenshi
Someone noticed J1mbo's massive growth over less than a day. Bryan massed Jimbo and then Sinister and Su killed the spies. I killed the defenders. Later, bryan's account was cracked then used to attack the same raid target that Looky hit. Bryan's account was banned. Then, after much turmoil, it was unbanned. Bryan had his account back. Someone then cracked his account again and ascended the account with everything.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:52 pm
by ~Artanis~
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:Someone noticed J1mbo's massive growth over less than a day. Bryan massed Jimbo and then Sinister and Su killed the spies. I killed the defenders. Later, bryan's account was cracked then used to attack the same raid target that Looky hit. Bryan's account was banned. Then, after much turmoil, it was unbanned. Bryan had his account back. Someone then cracked his account again and ascended the account with everything.

so Bryan doesnt have anything now or did he get his stats and army back??? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:53 pm
by Hensenshi
Zerathull wrote:
Hensenshi[Omega] wrote:Someone noticed J1mbo's massive growth over less than a day. Bryan massed Jimbo and then Sinister and Su killed the spies. I killed the defenders. Later, bryan's account was cracked then used to attack the same raid target that Looky hit. Bryan's account was banned. Then, after much turmoil, it was unbanned. Bryan had his account back. Someone then cracked his account again and ascended the account with everything.

so Bryan doesnt have anything now or did he get his stats and army back??? :shock: :shock: :shock:


He has nothing except lifers.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:58 pm
by El TC
but the hacking here is irrelevant since the offence was raiding the said target, that's what got them banned in the first place.

Furthermore, the whole thing was a setup as you claim so such an account would never exist in reality, fact that two more ppl raided said account at abouts the time is not unusual, all they saw was their returns on 1 turn/attack logs and went for it. They did not hack any accounts, they did not steal resources from jtest, they did nothing wrong, they are honorable, hardworking players like you and me and probably most of the players who have given a hoot about this incident.

Just because they do not have the resources and manpower like your honorable allegiance to watch an account over days should allready be enough evidence that their intentions were not of self enrichment.

All three players were caught up in this, all three are honorable players, all three should be unbanned.

On a side-note:

A simple check into their attack logs should PROVE, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what they were doing that night, what their intentions were, I ask you please Jason, re-think your decision, these are good quality players caught up in this &&&&storm setup purposfully to get revenge on another player.

Regards

El TC