Its crap, fix it

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Re: Its crap, fix it

Chris M wrote:
Chris M wrote:Said by the man who has never ascended.
Next you will tell us the secrets of how to cancer

My late night sarcastic comment was supposed to say

"Said by the man who has never ascended.
Next you will tell us the secrets of how to cure cancer"


dont worry, i am sure most people knew what u meant.

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Just because they're open to everybody, it doesn't mean everybody knows what they're talking about.


exactly my point. keep it open to people who have SOME clue abt whats going on here.
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Re: Its crap, fix it

why do i keep posting cause its funny, to get u ppl all riled up honestly

of course i dont know what the hell im talking about but man ppl u gotta lighten up a little...lol


U guys even said it u make so much DMU its that the amount they take is insignificant....

then let them farm u, they only do it ever know and them right


but whatever if u want to contunie to go awol on me sure be my guest
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Re: Its crap, fix it

I see it as a valid tactic for a player who cannot hope to compete with the 'big boys club' who often get annoyed at even the slightest attack.

Someone posted that they lost a third of their daily income......wow a third? were you on critical at the time or just letting the DMU flow in because you are in a big alliance and know that noone really will attack you?

I see it like a dictatorship with an enemy assassin that cannot be found. Just wear the damage and move on because they cant be hurt/found.

Someone else also said that these accounts do dormant for a week to build planetc to build their attack.......so for 6 days there is no attacks and on the 7th day they strike? well.......being attacked 1 day in 7 isnt much at all is it really? especially when you have so much income coming in to replace the planets/weapons :)
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Mango wrote:Someone else also said that these accounts do dormant for a week to build planetc to build their attack.......so for 6 days there is no attacks and on the 7th day they strike? well.......being attacked 1 day in 7 isnt much at all is it really? especially when you have so much income coming in to replace the planets/weapons :)




try being on first page, as the biggest incomes are there, and then seeing the entire page farmed by multiple snipers daily, and no way to stop or slow it.

They dont even train their planets anymore. They dont want income. They want to live off others. If you build a def big enough to handle the 3 and 4 quad strikes they pull together then another sniper dumps his entire realm population into assasins and in 30 hits you lose 94.5% of your ATT and DEF. Then you are farmed freely.

the only way to stop or slow a sniper is deacention ,,, and that is not possible if they are even remotely active.
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i dont snipe since i build my acc uniformly but i do go on farming sprees. last night's cost me 600mil planets as i woke up this morning to destroy military by some unknown person.

good hit.

but then again, i am NOT a sniper, atleast not by the definitions here. so what do u do to people who destroy military you for a single dmu hit?

most people i farmed had a def less than 1.5tril too
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Lord Abhicash wrote:i dont snipe since i build my acc uniformly but i do go on farming sprees. last night's cost me 600mil planets as i woke up this morning to destroy military by some unknown person.

good hit.

but then again, i am NOT a sniper, atleast not by the definitions here. so what do u do to people who destroy military you for a single dmu hit?

most people i farmed had a def less than 1.5tril too


And the reason why people sniper... You guys wipe out a persons entire military for one or two hits and don't say you don't. Why hit 10 people for 200t total and lose 250 mil military when you can hit 40 people for 1quad total using 500-1000 mil military.

The bullyboy tactics of the large alliances, omega, dd, dde, tle etc have helped to cause this situation. Of course the server updates have helped (or hindered) this strategy but it certainly not the only reason.

Also lol @ mango. :-D I'm happy to keep 1/5 of my income.

PS: Lore I would train planets in defence and income if I thought it would gain me anything, unfortunately within a day of training them all my defence planets would be assassinated, if I bothered to put assasins to defend as well they would also be gone. No point putting planets on income if you aren't going to help you. (thats not personal in any way.. just from a different viewpoint)
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I would say Remove the percentages.

However i have got to agree.. Destroying someones military over 1 hit on ascended has definatly helped make people want to do this. I am not one of these accounts myself however i do think that people bought the majority of these accounts apon themselves.
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Sounds like all the problems could easily be solved if everyone's income is cut to 10% of what it is now.

:D

That would make Jason super popular!

Just think, the weapons value would increase, the damage would still be high, but the snipers and other opportunists would have less motivation to wreck an account for a single hit.
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fremen wrote: but the snipers and other opportunists would have less motivation to wreck an account for a single hit.


I dont understand this 'wreck an account in a single hit', is there something that i am missing? is there some sort of massive damage if your attack is a high multiple of the defence?

My apologies for my ignorance :P
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Mango wrote:
fremen wrote: but the snipers and other opportunists would have less motivation to wreck an account for a single hit.


I dont understand this 'wreck an account in a single hit', is there something that i am missing? is there some sort of massive damage if your attack is a high multiple of the defence?

My apologies for my ignorance :P


wreck an account for a single hit....not with a single hit ;)
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I really don't think there should be rank modifiers in the game but if they have to be there why not make it so it's once you get so far from your rank that you suffer a penalty not gain a bonus for attacking someone you shouldn't. That would really mess up these snipers, all of the wasted DMU, ha ha.

Logically it makes sense to me that if you move too far away from your own rank it should be harder for you to attack people, but then again that's treating rank as a measure of distance.

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fremen wrote: but the snipers and other opportunists would have less motivation to wreck an account for a single hit.


I dont understand this 'wreck an account in a single hit', is there something that i am missing? is there some sort of massive damage if your attack is a high multiple of the defence?

My apologies for my ignorance :P


wreck an account for a single hit....not with a single hit ;)


Two on the other hand and you're done for, yes? :lol:
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Re: Its crap, fix it

Removing Rank mods would fix this.
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there is more than one problem here-first off, the destroy military is too powerful. I try to play a balanced game-for example ALL my levels (including personal ones) range between 500 and 900. most are between 600 and 800. But here's the thing-do I keep much of a def? no. Much of a covert? no. Heres why:

I PLAY ascended. I'm not like many accounts who don't do anything. I actually play it. I farm for DMU, I mass my enemies, etc. Now-as to my farming, I normally farm a couple times a week (because of the turn limitation I can't do much more than that-and i always keep a reserve of turns in case of war).

When I have tried to keep everything relatively even (a couple quad strike, couple quad def, a couple hundred mil planets each in assasin/covert) I would lose everything in a few hours. Thats right-after one night of farming (well, more like 30-45 minutes of it) I would lose over a bil planets.

Now I keep a minimal def/covert/assasin. I still lose several hundred mil planets each time-but its bearable. Planets are more valuable than protecting my DMU the rest of the time.

Just last night I went farming-not a great night, spent 25 minutes or so, hit a dozen people or so... This morning I woke up to no strike, defense, covert or assasins... For a single DMU hit I lost over 500 mil planets. Now, more than one person massed me. But the issue is-people are massing for single hits!

If people hit back for DMU thats fine, I'd keep a def and covert. As long as people mass for single dmu hits though people who actually play ascended dont have a choice but to leave their trained planets low. This happens every time. I farm a couple times a week (1-3, depending on how busy I am) and every time I do by morning I have no stats.

As I said before-I don't consider myself a sniper, I try to keep things even. And I tried very hard to play with a balanced account. But if I had more trained planets I would lose them all, and still lose my dmu. With less trained planets I also lose them all, along with my dmu. Any logical person can see why I keep fewer trained planets now...

Remove rank mods, reduce the destroy military function, improve descension. thats my take on it.
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Re: Its crap, fix it

here here! we've all been saying that for a while now.

at any rate. people are massing over 1 dmu hit because of the snipers. If your account even looks like a sniper.. you will get massed for 1 hit. Or, since snipers are farming people alot, and the people getting farmed have no retaliation against snipers (because they've usually been massed already), so people retaliate against the next person who hits them.. It's just how it goes. Don't like it?.... don't farm..or be very very careful.
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well I tried to be a polite player, building up my income and def, and than someone mashes like 100mill super questors because he was bored. That's like 12 days of my Cer, and I am pissed. BUT I have builded def angain and guess what happened? I got assassinated again, so U get tired of ascended since there are players, who enjoy destroying small accounts and farming the big ones. On the other hand, if U farm with like few quads strike, U can easily get 5quad DMU, which is round 30mill uu nowdays. What U do? farm the **Filtered** out of everyone, put your ascended on vac and than start to sell Dmu.
Than U ask yourself what is the point of it?
The spirit of ascended server is long gone, and I am afraid that it is gone for good.

Well about getting massed for 1 DMU hit, if U get massed only on ascended U got out pretty good, usually snipers get massed on main too (if they have acc there).

The topic got it correct really. It is crap and a big one....



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