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I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:52 am
by Mystake
There are things that I am, but being a leak is certainly not one of them.

Since the beginning of OSL's war with SC, actually since before it, OSL had a leak within their ranks, so its believed.

From just about day 1 I always suspected some sort of foul play on the side of Slovenian Command. More theories erupted, more were shot down.

I've had my own, and I found it way too convenient that there be 4 families, 2 brothers each inside SC. Nevertheless, I kept going on. Then, as things went on I started theorizing some more. OSL gets hit by 2 people, obluette and kvatthro. None of them do anything.

Why is xbox gone to purgatory? So that a perhaps multi does not have to worry about using both accounts? Too much to manage both accounts in time of war? Same story for Neim? Varga in main, Neim in purgatory?

I always felt it suspicious. With more leaking, I said enough. I thought either our forums are getting hacked or someone is still leaking. I got pissed and posted on the cheaters forums for a background check on all the ID's of the accounts not yet in purgatory, and maybe I'd hit gold on one of them.

It was a built of my frustrations with SC not properly fighting back, insulting OSL and generally being insulting of themselves. They accused people of OSL of calling them slovenian bastards but could never pull through with evidence. They call themselves warriors but yet can not fight.

On the new low I've been told I took by asking the admin to do a background check against the majority of their accounts, Neimenljivi responded by assuring OSL that now that I've been removed from OSL, there will not be any more information leaks.

The only other time I've ever been accused of being a leak is when I decided to leave AK for a few weeks to venture to OSL, at which point Taxonomist3 accused me of leaking to OSL. In turn however Taxo later admitted to his wrong of me being a leak, based on no actual evidence.

Neim is accusing that I leaked information to him through MSN, that him and I were good friends. I added Neim for the first time on MSN I think 2 weeks ago and spoke to him like 2 times over MSN offering them the chance to surrender.

Neim is acting like him and I have been friends all along which is completely untrue because I despise the attitude he's taken during the war, and it did nothing but frustrate me.

I have never leaked a single piece of information to OSL, and for me to prove such right now I'd have to leak facts themselves that SC does not know. The only "evidence" I can give publicly is that I *massed* Neimenljivi in ascended because of friction between us.

OSL was planning on striking SC, and SC became aware of the date that we planned on massing them.

I'm one of OSL... was one of OSLs most active members. Yes the strike was organized mostly for me. But at the same time if I had really been leaking to SC, they would've known that OSL was planning on NOT striking them.

Essentially, I'm accused of massing the person I was leaking too, and then NOT leaking to him causing them to go to war with OSL, the alliance I was leaking from, only in turn to eventually be kicked out of OSL so that I can't leak for them anymore.

I need to finish this post later... I've gtg. I need to go buy some food for university cause I'm going back to residence tonight.

Goodbye-

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:03 pm
by semper
Mr Mystake wrote:I am not.


Our survey says! Heterosexual!

no?

I mean..what else could you get out of a set up like that? Took me a while to decide on the fate..but im happy with the above..

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:21 pm
by V|per
Mr Mystake wrote:From just about day 1 I always suspected some sort of foul play on the side of Slovenian Command. More theories erupted, more were shot down.

I've had my own, and I found it way too convenient that there be 4 families, 2 brothers each inside SC. Nevertheless, I kept going on. Then, as things went on I started theorizing some more. OSL gets hit by 2 people, obluette and kvatthro. None of them do anything.

Why is xbox gone to purgatory? So that a perhaps multi does not have to worry about using both accounts? Too much to manage both accounts in time of war? Same story for Neim? Varga in main, Neim in purgatory?

I just want to comment on this part.
Brothers in Slovenia United:
Varga (SC) - Neimenljivi (SC)
Xbox (SC) - Miha (ST)
Martin_slo (SC) - Jernej (ST)
Mrtinc (SC) - Orc (ST)

I've personally met Varga and Neim, go to the same school with Xbox, Martin_slo and Jernej. Oh, and one of my classmates who is also playing sgw has met Miha in RL.
AdminMark can check all of these accounts and he won't be seeing any foul play.

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:27 pm
by Neimenljivi
Mystake I told shornaal everything what was going on arround the two of us...it's up to him to belive or not to belive and yeah I can't prove anything since I don't have any proofs and if shornaal wishes to drop the thing off due to lack of proofs he can, I only said what was going on...
The only evidence I have is my memmory, which, unfortunatley, I can't share with others...only informations from my memmory...

I hold no grudge against u, even tho some things u did are very bad, and wouldn't make any actions towards u if u wouldn't started 'em (ingame of course)

~N

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:31 pm
by Castiel
Neimenljivi wrote:Mystake I told shornaal everything what was going on arround the two of us...it's up to him to belive or not to belive and yeah I can't prove anything since I don't have any proofs and if shornaal wishes to drop the thing off due to lack of proofs he can, I only said what was going on...
The only evidence I have is my memmory, which, unfortunatley, I can't share with others...only informations from my memmory...

I hold no grudge against u, even tho some things u did are very bad, and wouldn't make any actions towards u if u wouldn't started 'em (ingame of course)

~N


I find it hard to belive that if mystake was leaking info to you and you are good friends you'd tell shornaal that.

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:43 pm
by Neimenljivi
Meth wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:Mystake I told shornaal everything what was going on arround the two of us...it's up to him to belive or not to belive and yeah I can't prove anything since I don't have any proofs and if shornaal wishes to drop the thing off due to lack of proofs he can, I only said what was going on...
The only evidence I have is my memmory, which, unfortunatley, I can't share with others...only informations from my memmory...

I hold no grudge against u, even tho some things u did are very bad, and wouldn't make any actions towards u if u wouldn't started 'em (ingame of course)

~N


I find it hard to belive that if mystake was leaking info to you and you are good friends you'd tell shornaal that.


we WERE good friends before something happened...I told EVERYTHING to shornaal and I don't expect those who weren't in our convo to know the detailes and I won't tell anyone except OSL HC what I told to shornaal :wink:

~N

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:47 pm
by Mystake
Neimenljivi wrote:
we WERE good friends before something happened...I told EVERYTHING to shornaal and I don't expect those who weren't in our convo to know the detailes and I won't tell anyone except OSL HC what I told to shornaal :wink:

~N




We were NEVER good friends. Do me atleast that favor and admit to them we were NEVER friends, let alone good friends.

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:51 pm
by Neimenljivi
Mr Mystake wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:
we WERE good friends before something happened...I told EVERYTHING to shornaal and I don't expect those who weren't in our convo to know the detailes and I won't tell anyone except OSL HC what I told to shornaal :wink:

~N




We were NEVER good friends. Do me atleast that favor and admit to them we were NEVER friends, let alone good friends.


concerning me, u were my friend...I think (thought) I wasn't only a buisness partner for u tho

~N

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:55 pm
by Castiel
Neimenljivi wrote:
Mr Mystake wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:
we WERE good friends before something happened...I told EVERYTHING to shornaal and I don't expect those who weren't in our convo to know the detailes and I won't tell anyone except OSL HC what I told to shornaal :wink:

~N




We were NEVER good friends. Do me atleast that favor and admit to them we were NEVER friends, let alone good friends.


concerning me, u were my friend...I think (thought) I wasn't only a buisness partner for u tho

~N


Ok so normally you sell out your "friends" ?

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:00 pm
by Neimenljivi
Meth wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:
Mr Mystake wrote:
Neimenljivi wrote:
we WERE good friends before something happened...I told EVERYTHING to shornaal and I don't expect those who weren't in our convo to know the detailes and I won't tell anyone except OSL HC what I told to shornaal :wink:

~N




We were NEVER good friends. Do me atleast that favor and admit to them we were NEVER friends, let alone good friends.


concerning me, u were my friend...I think (thought) I wasn't only a buisness partner for u tho

~N


Ok so normally you sell out your "friends" ?


I was the one who was sold out mate...at least that's what I call if someone who u think is ur friend masses u cause u don't want to pay him something for unusable information :wink:

~N

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:02 pm
by Mystake
This all started when you hit me a couple times in ascended for dmu, and I hit you back.

I don't remember exactly how it escalated, but on i think ST's 1st year anniversary I massed you, only your ascended weapons because of the way you acted/attitude.

I don't see how that comes close to selling out information.

edit: The first time I'd ever had you on MSN was about 2 weeks ago, and since then the only times we spoke were about me offering you guys to surrender.

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:09 pm
by Ra
So basically SC is too pathetic to fight an actual war? They have to make up dirt on members of opposing alliances? That's pretty weak...

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:44 pm
by Mystake
Neim, you win.

Doesn't even matter anymore, Lillmia believes in guilty until proven innocent.

You've won. Congratulations.

There's no proof and mia still believes you rather then me.

That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Post here all your evidence, maybe even the proof you don't have, because at this point I don't know how to prove I'm innocent, because I don't have any evidence to prove innocence. Instead, there was no need for proof for me to become guilty.

I never leaked a thing.

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:54 pm
by Suzuk
Hmmm... From what the two of you have said, I'd say I believe Mystake is telling the truth.

He just seems more geniune and from the heart.

Don't worry Mystake, the truth always comes out eventually...

Re: I am not.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:45 pm
by Rottenking
yeah i dont really know either side, but i think Mystake is telling the truth