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Weapons when ascending

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:10 pm
by Human
With the new changes on lower resell value for the weapons, I propose that the weapons will not be taken away for APP in ascenstion. Or, maybe you only lose some small % of the total amount of weapons you have on hand. This wil make ascending more attractive because now it seems ascending means you lose the super and UU requirements, and also much bigger amount in naq when you sell of the weapons...

Points to ponder..

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Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:14 am
by Technicality
Something needs done to make ascending more appealing...Currently, I see no reason to go beyond LG+1. You can much easier buy the DMU to amount to the same boost to your ascended account without all the losses on main. The new weapon values will only make it less effective to ascend beyond LG+1.

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:17 am
by pra3tor
I'm not sure I do want to go any further after LG, is there any point into doing LG+?

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:05 am
by Laar
pra3tor wrote:I'm not sure I do want to go any further after LG, is there any point into doing LG+?

LG+1 is the last ascension which gives you a +5% in all stats, therefor it's in standard opinion the last ascension which is profitable for most ppl

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:05 am
by _Rube_Dragon_
ok now see ascending is supost to take away your advantages (weapons, UU , UP....ect) because when ascending you lose all physical attachments basically what happens is once you leave your planet it goes corrupt and breakes into war and destroys itself. i think saving weapons after ascending is bad idea it would cause mass ascending because you would be able to ascend over and over cause say once you ascend you would move right to the rank where you previously where with little naq loss for on supers and spy levels. get my point i know that it would cause some people to ascend many many times. the point is that this will not be updated anyway. :)

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:49 am
by duk
_Rube_Dragon_ wrote:ok now see ascending is supost to take away your advantages (weapons, UU , UP....ect) because when ascending you lose all physical attachments basically what happens is once you leave your planet it goes corrupt and breakes into war and destroys itself. i think saving weapons after ascending is bad idea it would cause mass ascending because you would be able to ascend over and over cause say once you ascend you would move right to the rank where you previously where with little naq loss for on supers and spy levels. get my point i know that it would cause some people to ascend many many times. the point is that this will not be updated anyway. :)


What do you want to say????????

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:57 pm
by Human
_Rube_Dragon_ wrote:ok now see ascending is supost to take away your advantages (weapons, UU , UP....ect) because when ascending you lose all physical attachments basically what happens is once you leave your planet it goes corrupt and breakes into war and destroys itself. i think saving weapons after ascending is bad idea it would cause mass ascending because you would be able to ascend over and over cause say once you ascend you would move right to the rank where you previously where with little naq loss for on supers and spy levels. get my point i know that it would cause some people to ascend many many times. the point is that this will not be updated anyway. :)


I am not suggesting for 100% return. I am merely proposing for a cushion to make ascending more attractive, and would love to hear more tweaks and suggestions. If ascending causes the planet to vanish, why does the MS stays? :D

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:55 pm
by _Rube_Dragon_
cause it is inorbit an once you get back you find it roming the galaxy.
i know some of you don see ascending as attractive but it is really attractive look at the first 5 pages there are only 2 non ascended player and they are asgard. so that is obusly a bonus worth seeking out dont ya think?

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:29 pm
by Technicality
Well, if you are LG you get 25% bonuses, so you basically get the boosts of all base races at once as well as the stronger weapons, stronger fleets, and the ascended blessings. Also throw in the higher amount of mercs you can hold.

Go to LG+1 you just add in an extra 5% on top of all the race boosts again. Each ascension thereafter is just too expensive for the benefits you receive.

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:37 am
by Nobody101
Ascending is way to hard now they have dropped the re sale value...i think the resale value should depend on army size for example if your army is 1 to 10mil you loose 20% of the purchase value, if its 10 million and 1 to 20 million you should loose 30% etc...i feel you should loose a max of 80% of value...the reason for this idea is that the bigger your army size the bigger your bank is so you can hold more and not need to buy and sell so many weapons to save for ascension and other things...this would also help bring the game back together more with the bigger players having to work harder to get further and they would not be able to buy and sell all their weapons so easily when they decide to mass....i feel it would make the game more interesting and make people think more before they buy and sell weapons just to hit someone

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:02 am
by Human
Letting untrained mercs to increase the bank size but not income? maybe 10mil untrained mercs = 1 mil miners bank capacity

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:30 pm
by hidden
:lol: 10mil mercs costs about 5bil or so

anyway the only thing that need be done to make ascending worth it is to up the number of APP you get

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:00 pm
by _Rube_Dragon_
but APP only helps you in ascention so if you want to work only on main then it still gets you nowhere.

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:03 pm
by hidden
if your only ascending for the bonuses on main then you deserve nothing

ascending should help your ascended account in a reasonable manner

Re: Weapons when ascending

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:58 am
by dead solid
when ascending now the ammount of app gained is minimal if you farm you can trade the dmu for the ascended life force, if you farm alot you can make just as much as you would recieve in a ascension, therefore there isnt really a reason to ascend more than once other than to get the bonus's on main. and now thats been made even harder since they halved the naq you get from reselling your weps.