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1. define "god"
2. as i proved somewhere else god's existence cannot be proven nor disproven, but still can be a nice idea for a witty conversation (kinda like pookie's wednesday )

Can we use Douglas Adams as proof?

ahhhhh ah ah ah... now now. Stick to the rules. If u need arguments about God I suggest you talk to the great man himself, yours truly. I can give you an absolute library of arguments concerning God. If its within this forum though, its to be a debate on the topic, you and a team (or single person) declared clearly in the topic. So make sure you follow those rules and the ones found in the original topic of this forum section.

Omoc wrote:I am making a very big project about question does god exist...


The title is actually:

"Ways of proving the God."

If anyone has any ideas, i will be most gratefull!

Also, i offer a naq price on a good philosophical argument that god exist. Proves of the oposite are also most welcome!

Thank you all for your time!

If the Universe had a beginning we can logically assume it will have an end and is by definition mortal, however, if you believe the Universe was "always" then it will "always be" regardless of wristwatches, creators and ticking anomalies. It will simply be and never cease, to be.



Jean Paul Sartre said: "God is absence. God is the solitude of Man".

Although Sartre was debatably the first nihilist, his thoughts on God were nothing short of compassionate to the intelectual thinker. God is God, if you live under Him you will be wet, if you feed on Him you will be insatiated and if you love Him with all your heart you will have nothing but the luck of the ages. In short, appreciate the creation for the creator is far beyond communion.

u cant think like god is some man with mighty white dress who can create things.."god" is an energy form...if someone belive in god so much that is praying at night for luck in life will probably get luck cuz next day he is thinking what could posibly go wrong i have god protection over me (positive thinking=good luck) its all in mind baby.. its the same with superstition.. example some lady saw black cat crosing the street... she was so superstition that all she did thinking in that moment was"omg black cat i will have bad luck" consequences: (negative thinking=bad luck)... other guy saw black cat crosing the street too but he didnt mind it at all... consequences: ( nothing)

Moved...

GhostyGoo wrote:If the Universe had a beginning we can logically assume it will have an end and is by definition mortal, however, if you believe the Universe was "always" then it will "always be" regardless of wristwatches, creators and ticking anomalies. It will simply be and never cease, to be.

Ah, ah, but what if "time" as humanity knows it does not truely exist, but is merely an illusion based on our limited mental capacity. How, then, is ANYTHING either mortal or immortal, including the universe or god?



*firm believer in time being an illusion created by humans(who by nature desire order and structure)*

Time is simply a perspective which alloes the human race to define life. As life must begin and end, time is the measurement of life. Also it is possible for something to exist always and have an end. For example, if we assume that atoms have always existed which it is impossible to prove otherwise, we can end the existance of the "atom" by changing into a new form of free electron and neutron/proton radicle by fission. Therefore an eternal object can end so if god exists the same should be possible in that case. Again the assumption here is that god is made of some form of tangable matter.

God isn't just a physical being, s/he/it is an entity beyond what current human science has the ability to define or explain. So how can s/he/it end, when s/he/it does not follow the rules of physics as you know them?

But even if you define god as a not matter being i.e energy, then the laws of physics still apply as energy cannot exist without some form of tangable matter tied to it in one form or another.

Your missing the point: The laws of physics as we know them are incomplete, and as far as I'm concerned, are in certain areas wrong.

So, tell me, how can God, the being that is supposedly "older" then the universe its self(and thus, universal physics), be limited by the incompleted "laws of physics" as we understand them?

(Wait, I just repeated myself didn't I? I hate it when people make me do that... -.-)

~Zekk~ wrote:Your missing the point: The laws of physics as we know them are incomplete, and as far as I'm concerned, are in certain areas wrong.

So, tell me, how can God, the being that is supposedly "older" then the universe its self(and thus, universal physics), be limited by the incompleted "laws of physics" as we understand them?

(Wait, I just repeated myself didn't I? I hate it when people make me do that... -.-)

Sorry to make you repeat yourself. What I'm just trying to understand by myself is how if god transends all of the known physics, then how does it interact with the rest of the universe if it doesn't exist as a physical form of any type?