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i know what i believe is currently wrong with ascended but what does everyone else think?

A good response would go along the lines of "small players can't grow because they can't hit big players due to being 5 times bigger rule" NOT "the 5 times and 1/5 rule is stupid and NOT "small players can't grow."

Keep it clean please, if you don't think something is a problem politely let them know. If i request you to stop discussing something take it to pms because from that point on anything you post on the matter will be deleted.

thanks,
chargin.

if anything needs tidying let me know Chargin via pm and I'll sort it out

I believe the CER restrictions need to go... I also think decension needs changing but there are topics discussing the descension changes in ascended suggestions forum.

But it goes along the line of the ascended council only limits the max damage to 1/3rd for the first 3 months on the ascended server then for the 3 months after that its 1/2 max damage then finally after 6 months the ascended council feels you have been around long enough to defend yourself from other ascended beings... or fail trying...

For those who say they only ascend once every 6months+ that is their choice and I believe that a person who has ascended once shouldn't be as strong as someone who has ascended to LG and above... but we all know thats not true what with heavy ascension and cross server trading... so within 6 months there shouldn't be any reason why people arent able to defend themselves (at least in my eyes)

TheRook

There nothing wrong with ascension,

I don't have to play!, i'm undescendable for atleast another year!, aslo i can't even descend anyone ( large)

Oh and everyone is large, as for removing the caps NO leave them, you can remove the power/ rank mods.

You can make it so that people that get planets destroyed end up having a Super charimsa bonus, until they reach that level. ( like 100mil chinese people going off to war, and never returning, it means that the chinese goverment can lift the brith control measure for a short time to repopulate.

oh and i suppose it's time that a weapon costed more>?

What's wrong with ascension? Let me count the ways:

1.) thousands of accounts quickly becoming identical because of reaching a growth plateau as levels become increasingly more expensive and incomes start plateauing as well.

2.) Ridiculously cheap lower levels now, especially with the increase of APP

3.) The ability to be a one trick pony and not be penalized for it.

4.) Descension is impossible against anyone with half a brain.

5.) Descension penalties are a JOKE!

6.) CER restrictions

7.) Damage caps

8.) Rank mods

9.) Sniper accounts

10.) Jason alternately has his head up his fourth point of contact or stuck in the ground.

Someone.. know of that retarded first log-in 'bug' is still around?

Specifics: If you ascend and never log into the ascended account, the account on ascended is 'frozen in time' and nothing can be done to it. The account on main however still gets the bonuses of ascending.

Ascending APP 'award' to the sucks. I think my income for a day or two more than makes up that amount, while I lose out lots on my main account. Sidenote; The new update that gives people free app per turn is a 'good' idea, but all in all, I think if I get a whole years worth of it, it would still be less than one of my turn's income converted to APP.

Mojo wrapped it all up really..

But, really there's no way to fix it now. The major problems are the tiered level costs and the CER restrictions.. and you can't lift either of those otherwise the numbers will get bigger than chaos.. and small players will never ever ever ever ever ever catch up.

Whether or not they should be able to catch up is another argument altogether, but I think with a lot of work (and i dont mean snipering, cuz thats not work, thats laziness to the extreme) that people should be able to if not catch up then at least break into the middle class, and trust me that will not happen if tiered levels and cer restrictions get lifted.

At the very least rank mods and descension damage limits should be gone. At least that would give us something to do with our planets than just sit and train them.

Yes.. Mojo had it. Ascension, I'm afraid, is well beyond the point of being salvageable.

I'd also like to add the uselessness of the CS to the list of things which is wrong with that server.

SG wrote:Someone.. know of that retarded first log-in 'bug' is still around?

Specifics: If you ascend and never log into the ascended account, the account on ascended is 'frozen in time' and nothing can be done to it. The account on main however still gets the bonuses of ascending.

Ascending APP 'award' to the sucks. I think my income for a day or two more than makes up that amount, while I lose out lots on my main account. Sidenote; The new update that gives people free app per turn is a 'good' idea, but all in all, I think if I get a whole years worth of it, it would still be less than one of my turn's income converted to APP.

YA, that HAS been taking care of....Im 99% sure at least, lol.

So a reset is the only option?

Keeping the main bonuses still, just resetting the ascended server?

And THEN implementing all the good ideas?

lol abhi that isn't going to happen, u'll have to make your account good the hard way.

I'll summarize the problems, ask if i left anything out, make up alternative solutions to each and give it to Jason at the next admin chat.

chargin wrote:lol abhi that isn't going to happen, u'll have to make your account good the hard way.

I'll summarize the problems, ask if i left anything out, make up alternative solutions to each and give it to Jason at the next admin chat.

i am NOT advocating a reset. just saying that the only logical answer to statements like 'its too late to fix it' is a reset.

CS power needs to be multiplied so it has some effect.... im not sure by how much, maybe x 10?

I think .. that the CS is fine. Good money sink

Abhi,

You are correct that the only logical choice when it is too late to fix things is to reset them. And it is too late to fix things in ascension. So the only logical step to correcting what is wrong is to reset the server. However, in order to do this, a reset of main is also necessary. Jason refuses to take this step because he is a moron and knows jack crap about how his game ACTUALLY works, despite having some of the best people in the game advising him on what is going to go wrong with his updates if he implements them. And yet, he goes ahead and implements them anyway, and <shock> <gasp> the things he was told would go wrong, go wrong and usually on a far grander scale than some of the advisors could foresee.

Mojo Rising wrote:Abhi,

You are correct that the only logical choice when it is too late to fix things is to reset them. And it is too late to fix things in ascension. So the only logical step to correcting what is wrong is to reset the server. However, in order to do this, a reset of main is also necessary. Jason refuses to take this step because he is a moron and knows jack crap about how his game ACTUALLY works, despite having some of the best people in the game advising him on what is going to go wrong with his updates if he implements them. And yet, he goes ahead and implements them anyway, and <shock> <gasp> the things he was told would go wrong, go wrong and usually on a far grander scale than some of the advisors could foresee.

You don't really need a reset in main, just a scale down, and a removal of all account ( under 50k) since they aren't active expect to give people turns.

The scale down would be uniformed, based on total naq value of the realm. * mabye even a complete naq refund.* 1 thing is for sure, ( it wouldn't be based on how he calucates naq at the moment)