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best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:38 am
by *zesh*
Obviously, you have no intention of answering me, so I am informing you that I am going to speak with Admin and filing a formal complaint against you.


some guy that has a 100b def and leaves 30 -40b out

he also made comments so i massed him and he sends me this via pm

'Dear mr Admin

Theres some guy that hits me for naq alot and massed me cos i called him a ****

please could you ban...'

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:56 am
by Suzuk
seriously?

:smt044

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:08 am
by *zesh*
[spoiler]http://thelegionempire.net/hahahahaahaha.bmp[/spoiler]

Screenie in the spoiler

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:12 am
by Nimras
*zesh* wrote:[spoiler]http://thelegionempire.net/hahahahaahaha.bmp[/spoiler]

Screenie in the spoiler


Not working for me :? dont know it if is the work that block or??

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:12 am
by bebita
o my god zesh
you will be banned :smt044
indeed best pm ever

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:18 am
by Fallout
nice PM indeed but for the future; don't save pictures in bmp format, it takes too much space, jpg or png are much better ones;)

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:53 am
by *zesh*
ah but its harder to accuse of doctoring a bmp :)

as it shows up more

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:28 am
by Balhaar
Zesh that was awesome hahaha

I have never had anything like that :(

I have been called a pr*ck before and asked if i knew how to play te game when i farmed someone but that takes the cake!

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:04 am
by Mystake
*zesh* wrote:ah but its harder to accuse of doctoring a bmp :)

as it shows up more



actually bitmaps are easier to doctor because there isn't any pixel compression that "gives you away"

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:33 am
by madcat
who is it zesh?

i wanna help him try n get u banned :lol:

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:49 am
by Draleg
Send him this --> [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:20 am
by JediMasterX
love the pic Draleg, lol.

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:24 am
by demonicwolf
:-\ ur kidding me right ? u educate this person yet they need it or something :\

aslo png is prolly the hardest to fake or jpg, png allows one the quality of DMP but the compression of a JPG and is alot smaller but use what u want.

lol nice zesh btw this def takes the cake on best pm :lol:

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:26 am
by demonicwolf
Jack wrote:
*zesh* wrote:[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Screenie in the spoiler

:smt043

Fallout wrote:nice PM indeed but for the future; don't save pictures in bmp format, it takes too much space, jpg or png are much better ones;)

JPG's is an atrocious format! Never use JPG! Always use PNG!




P.S. Fix'd yer spoiler Zesh :P


ur right and ur wrong jpg does kill a image and is really bad, but jpg is good for something but png is like the best choice.

jpegs like a porsche and png is like the super bowl each has its qualitys over the other :P

sorry i ment BMP not DMP thats a alliance i think :shock:

Re: best pm ever

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:24 pm
by demonicwolf
porsche isnt really a amazeing machine in my eyes but a lambo is (lambogini = super bull)



[spoiler]The Story of PNG actually begins way back in 1977 and 1978 when two Israeli researchers, Jacob Ziv and Abraham Lempel, first published a pair of papers on a new class of lossless data-compression algorithms, now collectively referred to as ``LZ77'' and ``LZ78.'' Some years later, in 1983, Terry Welch of Sperry (which later merged with Burroughs to form Unisys) developed a very fast variant of LZ78 called LZW. Welch also filed for a patent on LZW, as did two IBM researchers, Victor Miller and Mark Wegman. The result was...you guessed it...the USPTO granted both patents (in December 1985 and March 1989, respectively).

Meanwhile CompuServe--specifically, Bob Berry--was busily designing a new, portable, compressed image format in 1987. Its name was GIF, for ``Graphics Interchange Format,'' and Berry et al. blithely settled on LZW as the compression method. Tim Oren, Vice President of Future Technology at CompuServe (now with Electric Communities), wrote: ``The LZW algorithm was incorporated from an open publication, and without knowledge that Unisys was pursuing a patent. The patent was brought to our attention, much to our displeasure, after the GIF spec had been published and passed into wide use.'' There are claims [1] that Unisys was made aware of this as early as 1989 and chose to ignore the use in ``pure software''; the documents to substantiate this claim have apparently been lost. In any case, Unisys for years limited itself to pursuit of hardware vendors--particularly modem manufacturers implementing V.42bis in silicon.

All of that changed at the end of 1994. Whether due to ongoing financial difficulties or as part of the industry-wide bonk on the head provided by the World Wide Web, Unisys in 1993 began aggressively pursuing commercial vendors of software-only LZW implementations. CompuServe seems to have been its primary target at first, culminating in an agreement--quietly announced on 28 December 1994, right in the middle of the Christmas holidays--to begin collecting royalties from authors of GIF-supporting software. The spit hit the fan on the Internet the following week; what was then the comp.graphics newsgroup went nuts, to use a technical term. As is the way of Usenet, much ire was directed at CompuServe for making the announcement, and then at Unisys once the details became a little clearer; but mixed in with the noise was the genesis of an informal Internet working group led by Thomas Boutell [2]. Its purpose was not only to design a replacement for the GIF format, but a successor to it: better, smaller, more extensible, and FREE.

The Early Days (All Seven of 'Em)

The very first PNG draft--then called ``PBF,'' for Portable Bitmap Format-- was posted by Tom to comp.graphics, comp.compression and comp.infosystems.www.providers on Wednesday, 4 January 1995. It had a three-byte signature, chunk numbers rather than chunk names, maximum pixel depth of 8 bits and no specified compression method, but even at that stage it had more in common with today's PNG than with any other existing format.

Within one week, most of the major features of PNG had been proposed, if not yet accepted: delta-filtering for improved compression (Scott Elliott and Mark Adler); deflate compression (Tom Lane, the Info-ZIP gang and many others); 24-bit support (many folks); the PNG name itself (Oliver Fromme); internal CRCs (myself); gamma chunk (Paul Haeberli) and 48- and 64-bit support (Jonathan Shekter). The first proto-PNG mailing list was also set up that week; Tom released the second draft of the specification; and I posted some test results that showed a 10% improvement in compression if GIF's LZW method was simply replaced with the deflate (LZ77) algorithm. Figure 1 is a timeline listing many of the major events in PNG's history.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]HISTORY OF JPEG

The DCT is the transform used in JPEG compression. "Joint Photographic Experts Group" is the original name of the committee that created the JPEG format. The standard was a joint effort by three of the world's largest standards organizations: The International Organization for Standardization (ISO), the International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative Committee (CCITT), and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). The JPEG project began back in 1982. The goal was to create a data compression standard that would display an image within one second down a 64 Kbits/sec ISDN line. Eventually, the format would be able to send loss-less images. The standard was intended for natural, real world scenes. It was designed to compress natural pictures that are smooth and curved and have no jagged edges.

The project began under ISO as Working Group 8 but later merged with CCITT. The Joint Photographic Experts Group, actually a subcommittee of ISO, was then formed in 1986 in order to avoid competing standards among the three standards organizations. After testing of numerous schemes, the Adaptive Discrete Cosine Transform (DCT) was chosen to be the core of the JPEG format. Three years later, the merged ISO/IEC committee gave their approval to make the JPEG the standard. It was drafted as the ISO Committee Draft 10918 or Digital Compression and Coding of Continuous-Tone Still Images. It was officially standardized as the International Standard ISO 10918-1.

JPEG has been in existence for nearly a decade. Revisions updating JPEG to make use of our current text-based technologies are in progress. This project has been in progress since August 1998. The project team isdeveloping a JPEG format that provides more compression options and better images which take up the same amount of space. It is said that the core of
JPEG 2000 is Wavelet technology. The release date has been set for January
2000, but implementation will probably take some time.[/spoiler]


jpeg can take advantage of text conscripts mentioned in the history which png cant, also png increases the image simply because the way it compressions.

i like jpg's when i need fast compressed images and need them quickly i love png's becuase the quality but the compression takes a bit more time tho now adays with duo core processing and quad core processing the time isnt even noteable but back in the day when hdd's only held 40megs of space this is what jpg and png was ment for.

sorry im not clear on boths historys since its been a while, but honestly if ur dealing with low space and image quality dosent matter jpeg is the way

if you need medium spaced quick compressed interlaced quality images PNG is ur freind.

http://info.eps.surrey.ac.uk/FAQ/standards.html