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new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:58 am
by anh yeu em
ok i found out something....
the 50% restriction is calculated "after" the 10/15/20/25/30% from officers.
so if an officer give a virtual 100K up to his commander (666k total up) and commander got 100K raw up.
he will get :
30% => 50k (out of 100k)
25% => 50k (out of 83k)
20% => 50k (out of 67k)
15% => 50k (out of 50k)
10% => 33k
So now.... the % given to officer have a meaning, use it wisely... not sure it does help anyone
Regards.
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:04 am
by DarkSchneider
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:08 pm
by Sphinx42
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:10 pm
by Cobolt
hrrm, I haven´t had officers in years... could someone explain this a bit further I don´t get it...

Before it was easy - 30% from me = 15% from them
Now??
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the 50% restriction is calculated "after" the 10/15/20/25/30% from officers.
so if an officer give a virtual 100K up to his commander (666k total up) and commander got 100K raw up.
he will get :
30% => 50k (out of 100k)
25% => 50k (out of 83k)
20% => 50k (out of 67k)
15% => 50k (out of 50k)
10% => 33k
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I don´t get the 666k total up thing
Don´t get the 50K static figures above either?
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:09 am
by Sphinx42
I think 666k is just a random example (15% of 666k is 100k). So, if CO has 100k raw UP and officer has 666k total UP:
- if % income to officers is 30 - CO used to receive 100k from officer, now receives 50k (50% of his raw UP)
...
- if % income to officers is 15 - CO used to receive 50k, still receives 50k
- if % income to officers is 10 - CO used to receive 33k from officer, still receives 33k
If that still doesn't make sense, try thinking of it as if it were a planet like someone suggested

Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:40 am
by Cobolt
Lucky Starr wrote:I think 666k is just a random example (15% of 666k is 100k). So, if CO has 100k raw UP and officer has 666k total UP:
- if % income to officers is 30 - CO used to receive 100k from officer, now receives 50k (50% of his raw UP)
...
- if % income to officers is 15 - CO used to receive 50k, still receives 50k
- if % income to officers is 10 - CO used to receive 33k from officer, still receives 33k
If that still doesn't make sense, try thinking of it as if it were a planet like someone suggested

Lets se if I get the exam right..

% to officer set to 30, CO used to recive 100k (15% of 666) but will now recive up to a maximum of 50% of the officers total UP if CO has enough RAW UP - example, with a raw UP of 666, CO would have a net gain of 333?
If % to officer is set to 15, CO used to recive 50k (7,5% of 666) but will now recive up to a maximum of "25%" of the officers total UP if CO has enough RAW UP?
Thanx for helping me out here!

Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:50 am
by GeneralChaos
In a nut shell,
If you have 50k Raw Up and your officer has 800k total up a day, you can only take a max of 25k UP a day from them, if you had 100k raw it would be 50k up total a day from them, they act the same way UP planets work now.
It stops the bonus multiplying itself, over and over in a command circle this way.
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:52 am
by Cycladic
@ Cobolt
The maximum a commander can receive from an officer is still half of the % income set, i.e. if income is 30%, the bonus UP the commander receives from the officers is 15% of their total UP. This hasn't part hasn't changed from what it was 2 or weeks ago.
However the amount of bonus UP the commander can receive from any one officer is now limited by the commanders raw UP. That is, the maximum bonus is now limited to 50% of the commanders raw up.
However what anh yeu em is saying, is that no matter what % income the commander sets, the commander can always receive the full 50% of his total UP
if the officer is supplying it.
So if an officer is provinding a greater bonus than the commanders raw UP allows, the commander may be able to lower their income % given to officers, while still receiving the same bonus.
Hope this helps

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Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:04 am
by Cobolt
I highly appriciate you guys helping out!

So..
15% of officers UP is still Maximum if Co has 30% set? but limited to 50% of CO:s RAW UP?
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 1:29 pm
by Cycladic
Cobolt wrote:I highly appriciate you guys helping out!

So..
15% of officers UP is still Maximum if Co has 30% set? but limited to 50% of CO:s RAW UP?
Yep, exactly.
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:04 pm
by grimgor
so what you can get the same UP from you
they would be PI55 off cause your stealing there income

Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:09 am
by Nimras
Cycladic wrote:Cobolt wrote:I highly appriciate you guys helping out!

So..
15% of officers UP is still Maximum if Co has 30% set? but limited to 50% of CO:s RAW UP?
Yep, exactly.
No not 100% true.
As its 15% of his RAW plus planets UP. Meaning if a officer total is lets say 500k. his raw is only 100k and his planets give him 100k and his officers 300k meaning is total is made up of this:
100k RAW
100k from planets
300k from officers
500k Total
Then you will only get 15% of this
100k RAW
100k from planets
200k Total.
That way he stop circles as the 300K bonus your officer got from his officers will not be included.
Then on top of that we are back that your RAW as those 200k will give you 30k bonus to get that you need a 60k RAW your self.
Thats how it works.
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:48 am
by Wolf359
Perhaps, since it appears a commander can now get the maximum amount of UP bonus without setting the maximum amount of income, something should be added to tell the officer what % income the commander has set?
Either that, or the update needs tweaking so that you only get the max on 30% and less on the others.
(That's assuming I've understood everything in this thread - it's entirely possible I haven't because I'm tired, hot and have a stinking headache!

).
Re: new up update...something (and new...)
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:39 pm
by Nimras
Wolf359 wrote:Perhaps, since it appears a commander can now get the maximum amount of UP bonus without setting the maximum amount of income, something should be added to tell the officer what % income the commander has set?
Either that, or the update needs tweaking so that you only get the max on 30% and less on the others.
(That's assuming I've understood everything in this thread - it's entirely possible I haven't because I'm tired, hot and have a stinking headache!

).
Ohh not totally wrong.
What they mean is lets say me:
I have 60k RAW bonus that means to get Full use from a officer his total with planets should be 200k no more and no less then i get 30k UP from him.
If all then gives more i can just set my output down to next lvl get more naq and if i am lucky still recieve full 30kUP bonus.
But then again i could also just increase my RAW.