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Is this supposed to be possible?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:56 pm
by Nuto vixen
On the 10th of March, I attacked one guy with 1 attack turn, and inflicted more damage on him than the next guy who I attacked with 15 attack turns.

Is that a bug?

I thought that when you attack with more turns you inflict more damage and attack with more strike? I can paste the stats if you want, but I thought I better ask first...

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:11 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
weapon damage reduces weapon effectiveness, so if you didn't repair your weapons, then naturally your weapons would do less damage a second time

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:14 pm
by Nuto vixen
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:weapon damage reduces weapon effectiveness, so if you didn't repair your weapons, then naturally your weapons would do less damage a second time

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~


I always repair them with the money I make on the attack straight away.

I would have drawn that conclusion if I were you though. I think there are a lot of people who forget about repairing their weapons.

Re: Is this supposed to be possible?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:16 pm
by compmage
Nuto_vixen wrote:On the 10th of March, I attacked one guy with 1 attack turn, and inflicted more damage on him than the next guy who I attacked with 15 attack turns.

Is that a bug?

I thought that when you attack with more turns you inflict more damage and attack with more strike? I can paste the stats if you want, but I thought I better ask first...


The number of attack turns doesn't affect your total damage, just th amount of Naquadah you liberate from the attack. Think of it more like this, you attack and the enemy flees (if you win) you then spend x turns searching for and collecting spoils.

Re: Is this supposed to be possible?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:20 pm
by Nuto vixen
compmage wrote:
Nuto_vixen wrote:On the 10th of March, I attacked one guy with 1 attack turn, and inflicted more damage on him than the next guy who I attacked with 15 attack turns.

Is that a bug?

I thought that when you attack with more turns you inflict more damage and attack with more strike? I can paste the stats if you want, but I thought I better ask first...


The number of attack turns doesn't affect your total damage, just th amount of Naquadah you liberate from the attack. Think of it more like this, you attack and the enemy flees (if you win) you then spend x turns searching for and collecting spoils.


It just doens't make too much sense that with 15 attack turns I would do LESS damage then with just 1.

Re: Is this supposed to be possible?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:21 pm
by the3rdlibra
Nuto_vixen wrote:On the 10th of March, I attacked one guy with 1 attack turn, and inflicted more damage on him than the next guy who I attacked with 15 attack turns.

Is that a bug?

I thought that when you attack with more turns you inflict more damage and attack with more strike? I can paste the stats if you want, but I thought I better ask first...


i don't think it is a bug, it is either as Psi kiya Trist says.. that you maybe forgot to repair your weapons, either that or you have stumbled upon something very clever.

When i co-ordinate "mass" strikes i always order "rush tactics" basically small 1 turn attacks, again and again to weaken a player's defence. Of course it does not always work you have to take into consideration alot of (sort of) "real life" factors, like how far away is your enemy to you, what type of defences does he have? Does he have a lot of untrained military? (this tends to have an effect on death toll, but it's pure conjecture, i have no proof). Basically, i believe that you have experienced a good tactic for crippling your enemy, one i take great advantage of myself. It's no use if you are simply after Naquada, but if you wish to take someone's defense down from 1 million to 500k with 15 turns, this is the way to do it :)

Commander Libra

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:29 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
attacks are also effected by a random factor, they vary in damage no matter what your max is, i've seem this random factor make me do about half my attack value...

it's out there... but do we understand it?

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:35 pm
by Nuto vixen
I see what you mean, but the first attack the person I attacked did 3 damage to me and my army, so I got a bit so I fixed my stuff, like I usually do.

Don't you think there should be something in place for this not to happen?

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:37 pm
by Nuto vixen
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:attacks are also effected by a random factor, they vary in damage no matter what your max is, i've seem this random factor make me do about half my attack value...

it's out there... but do we understand it?

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~


I'm really not so "all for" this random factor... too....random for my liking.... :)

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:03 am
by GhostyGoo
as Libra has plainly stated if you care to read carefully ;) it is not as random as some would have you believe, it is only as random as the leaves falling from the trees in autumn, why doth it happen? To hide the little beetles scurrying from the cold ;)

Random factorisation is a major part of the game, this is war and in war there is no certainty.. unlike Libra with his carefully plotted mathamatical tactical maneouvres, sometimes i just prefer to do like R.E.M and "Bang and Blame" :)

Goo

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:32 am
by Nuto vixen
GhostyGoo wrote:as Libra has plainly stated if you care to read carefully ;) it is not as random as some would have you believe, it is only as random as the leaves falling from the trees in autumn, why doth it happen? To hide the little beetles scurrying from the cold ;)

Random factorisation is a major part of the game, this is war and in war there is no certainty.. unlike Libra with his carefully plotted mathamatical tactical maneouvres, sometimes i just prefer to do like R.E.M and "Bang and Blame" :)

Goo


Gezz goo, can't half tell that you love Libra.
Something going on between you two that I should know?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:37 am
by GhostyGoo
Nuto_vixen wrote:
GhostyGoo wrote:as Libra has plainly stated if you care to read carefully ;) it is not as random as some would have you believe, it is only as random as the leaves falling from the trees in autumn, why doth it happen? To hide the little beetles scurrying from the cold ;)

Random factorisation is a major part of the game, this is war and in war there is no certainty.. unlike Libra with his carefully plotted mathamatical tactical maneouvres, sometimes i just prefer to do like R.E.M and "Bang and Blame" :)

Goo


Gezz goo, can't half tell that you love Libra.
Something going on between you two that I should know?


in many ways we are the same, i admire his realism as i am sure he admires my spirituality ;)

Goo

p.s. why, pray tell did Libra get a capital L from you yet i only a lowercase g? :?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:41 am
by Nuto vixen
p.s. why, pray tell did Libra get a capital L from you yet i only a lowercase g? :?



because important things need capitals?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:43 am
by GhostyGoo
Nuto_vixen wrote:
p.s. why, pray tell did Libra get a capital L from you yet i only a lowercase g? :?



because important things need capitals?


so then... what is the purpose of Melbourne? :P

Just kiddin' kidda ;)

Goo

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:44 am
by Nuto vixen
GhostyGoo wrote:
Nuto_vixen wrote:
p.s. why, pray tell did Libra get a capital L from you yet i only a lowercase g? :?



because important things need capitals?


so then... what is the purpose of Melbourne? :P

Just kiddin' kidda ;)

Goo


ahh, Melbourne ain't the capital of Australia though :wink:

-Nuto