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How do I descend someone?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:59 pm
by Lucius_Crassus
How do I descend someone in ascension? and if i try it what happens?

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:54 pm
by cyberblade
Lucius_Crassus wrote:How do I descend someone in ascension? and if i try it what happens?

you use the "Assault $player Directly" button. It takes a minimum of 4 hits to descend someone.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:55 am
by Mojo Rising
You don't descend anyone. Unless they are stupid or inactive, it is impossible to descend someone in ascension. Now if you feel you have too many ATs and just want to waste time and resources, you can try. But you will more than likely end up doing more damage to yourself than to your opponent.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:53 pm
by cyberblade
Mojo Rising wrote:You don't descend anyone. Unless they are stupid or inactive, it is impossible to descend someone in ascension. Now if you feel you have too many ATs and just want to waste time and resources, you can try. But you will more than likely end up doing more damage to yourself than to your opponent.


Tell that to all the accounts in TJP and FUALL who have been descended... You aren't likely going to descend someone who is active-but its possible.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:05 pm
by Lucius_Crassus
ah, okay, thank you for the help.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:28 am
by TheRook
cyberblade wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:You don't descend anyone. Unless they are stupid or inactive, it is impossible to descend someone in ascension. Now if you feel you have too many ATs and just want to waste time and resources, you can try. But you will more than likely end up doing more damage to yourself than to your opponent.


Tell that to all the accounts in TJP and FUALL who have been descended... You aren't likely going to descend someone who is active-but its possible.


it is possible but you need to guarantee you take the maximum 1/3rd each time and hope they dont get on... :)

I remember suggesting that you can only fill a certain % of you reserves/life force per turn this will allow those who are active to stave off descension but those who log in once every 6 hours and refill it completely will not be able to stop descension.

Thats how I believe it should be. (Even if that means I get descend too ;))

TheRook

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:14 am
by dominater92
Just wondering if i can be descended...

Ascended Life Force 81,125 / 81,125
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 11,425 Ascended Life Force

From what ive gathered, you can only be assulted directly every 4 hours. In 4 hours there are 8 turns. And in 8 turns i could max my LF out.

But as i am still new to this server i wasnt sure, so can is it possible?

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:31 am
by Borek
It's every 3 hrs you can be assaulted, not 4 (that is a display error in game).

Also, your recovery rate is only that much for your Lifeforce, your reserves will regen at a lower rate, and the reserves must be regenerated/replaced as well as the lifeforce.

Total Offensive Capacity 150,535,680 is me atm, so i'd wipe out your LF and deal 130+ mill to your reserves with 1 attack.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:50 am
by dominater92
I thought you could only lose a percentage of your LF per assualt though.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:59 am
by Borek
dominater92 wrote:I thought you could only lose a percentage of your LF per assualt though.
you can lose a max of 1/3 of your Lifeforce+LF reserves.

LF gets taken 1st, anything left over will leave your LF at 1, and will drop your reserves up to a max of 1/3rd. And since reserves regenerate at half the rate of LF, and there is a lot more, as you can imagine it won't take long before you're staring descention in the face.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:03 pm
by Silverburn
Borek wrote:
dominater92 wrote:I thought you could only lose a percentage of your LF per assualt though.
you can lose a max of 1/3 of your Lifeforce+LF reserves.

LF gets taken 1st, anything left over will leave your LF at 1, and will drop your reserves up to a max of 1/3rd. And since reserves regenerate at half the rate of LF, and there is a lot more, as you can imagine it won't take long before you're staring descention in the face.


So in other words. NO MATTER HOW POWERFULL YOUR OPPONENT IS.

if you login often enough and refill your reserve, you can't be descended

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:57 pm
by cyberblade
Silverburn wrote:
Borek wrote:
dominater92 wrote:I thought you could only lose a percentage of your LF per assualt though.
you can lose a max of 1/3 of your Lifeforce+LF reserves.

LF gets taken 1st, anything left over will leave your LF at 1, and will drop your reserves up to a max of 1/3rd. And since reserves regenerate at half the rate of LF, and there is a lot more, as you can imagine it won't take long before you're staring descention in the face.


So in other words. NO MATTER HOW POWERFULL YOUR OPPONENT IS.

if you login often enough and refill your reserve, you can't be descended


correct. that is the way admin intended-and I agree with him on this point.

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:39 am
by TheRook
cyberblade wrote:
Silverburn wrote:
Borek wrote:
dominater92 wrote:I thought you could only lose a percentage of your LF per assualt though.
you can lose a max of 1/3 of your Lifeforce+LF reserves.

LF gets taken 1st, anything left over will leave your LF at 1, and will drop your reserves up to a max of 1/3rd. And since reserves regenerate at half the rate of LF, and there is a lot more, as you can imagine it won't take long before you're staring descention in the face.


So in other words. NO MATTER HOW POWERFULL YOUR OPPONENT IS.

if you login often enough and refill your reserve, you can't be descended


correct. that is the way admin intended-and I agree with him on this point.

but the issue is it allows the person to log in ONCE in those 6-9 hours and refill everything utterly wasting time.

Really the need to be on at least 3 turns to refill 1/9th of the reserves a turn (meaing in 3 turns they will have replenished the 1/3rd LF they had taken).
TheRook

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:29 am
by JBJFaN
cyberblade wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:You don't descend anyone. Unless they are stupid or inactive, it is impossible to descend someone in ascension. Now if you feel you have too many ATs and just want to waste time and resources, you can try. But you will more than likely end up doing more damage to yourself than to your opponent.


Tell that to all the accounts in TJP and FUALL who have been descended... You aren't likely going to descend someone who is active-but its possible.




i descended a guy i was at war with in acw

but then he wasnt descended on main?

why is this ^^??

he was put into the descended ppt on acw so i dunno

Re: How do I descend someone?

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:57 am
by Lore
kyledekiller wrote:
cyberblade wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:You don't descend anyone. Unless they are stupid or inactive, it is impossible to descend someone in ascension. Now if you feel you have too many ATs and just want to waste time and resources, you can try. But you will more than likely end up doing more damage to yourself than to your opponent.


Tell that to all the accounts in TJP and FUALL who have been descended... You aren't likely going to descend someone who is active-but its possible.




i descended a guy i was at war with in acw

but then he wasnt descended on main?

why is this ^^??

he was put into the descended ppt on acw so i dunno

ACW?

did you wait for turn change? the effect in main is not immediate.