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What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:12 pm
by Iƒrit
this locking of topics and issuing of warnings because people are wanting to discuss and ask quesions, is Nazi-ism, it is the same thing that Hitler did to silence his protesters.

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:15 pm
by Evilevi777
they were in the wrong section is what i've gathered

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:27 pm
by DaDigi
viewtopic.php?p=1410519#p1410519

Forum wrote:we have a current ombudsman for just such issues.
mod consequences/punishments/warnings/etc are not public domain - its dealt with by the mod team in the mod forums/chats/etc.

thus - this can stay locked.

and from now on, internal mod stuff, will stay internal. no need to have team management a 16page public forum topic :)
the community can use the feedback mechanisms, ombudsman, etc to address issues... as it was intended.

jason.

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:30 pm
by Juliette
Ifrit wrote:this locking of topics and issuing of warnings because people are wanting to discuss and ask quesions, is Nazi-ism, it is the same thing that Hitler did to silence his protesters.

And that post, my friend, is idiocy. Why do I keep expecting better of you? I wonder how you can have me have such a lot of respect for you, if this is your current style. Then again, people change. Some for better, others for worse.

You're both cutting short on Nazism, and current style of 'ruling'. Nazism is and is about much more than silencing people. To suggest that everything you perceive as 'silencing' (strictly, just keeping order) is 'Nazism', is ludicrous. Nazism is an ideology. Ideologies cannot be deduced from moderating policies on some internet forum.
You're cutting short on the style of 'ruling', since it is intent on preventing the issues from escalating outside of the Mod Team. Internal issues are, by definition, internal, hence not public. The public has, as a result, no business with the internal issues of the Mod Team. Should internal issues arise to have public effects, such effects should be censored and the issue policed to fit back in the 'internal issue' definition.

All that said and done, your point is offensive, understandable, and false. :)


*bows out to Dadigi*

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:40 pm
by Iƒrit
Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:
Ifrit wrote:this locking of topics and issuing of warnings because people are wanting to discuss and ask quesions, is Nazi-ism, it is the same thing that Hitler did to silence his protesters.

And that post, my friend, is idiocy. Why do I keep expecting better of you? I wonder how you can have me have such a lot of respect for you, if this is your current style. Then again, people change. Some for better, others for worse.

You're both cutting short on Nazism, and current style of 'ruling'. Nazism is and is about much more than silencing people. To suggest that everything you perceive as 'silencing' (strictly, just keeping order) is 'Nazism', is ludicrous. Nazism is an ideology. Ideologies cannot be deduced from moderating policies on some internet forum.
You're cutting short on the style of 'ruling', since it is intent on preventing the issues from escalating outside of the Mod Team. Internal issues are, by definition, internal, hence not public. The public has, as a result, no business with the internal issues of the Mod Team. Should internal issues arise to have public effects, such effects should be censored and the issue policed to fit back in the 'internal issue' definition.

All that said and done, your point is offensive, understandable, and false. :)


*bows out to Dadigi*

and the KGB is sent in :lol:

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:42 pm
by Juliette
:shock: *timewarp*
Thank you, I guess..

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Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:43 pm
by DaDigi
I'm of Jewish descent and I do not appreciate the Hitler/Nazi remarks, by the way. Once Jack murders somebody in cold blood, then you can try to use that excuse. Until then, please don't.

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:16 am
by Nuto vixen
I don't think it was called for to lock the original topic.

By Jason's view, it should have be dealt with via the ombudsman... who has exactly 0 power to do anything to help this situation.

It's hard to expect a community to trust in you and have faith that you're commitment to the job, or position when you constantly make questionable decisions and follow them up with a "opps, my bad" sort of attitude.

Can the ombudsman really clean up this mess?

Is it really his job?

Bill... what did you get yourself into :shock:

Re: What is wrong with discussion of the the Mod situation?

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:21 am
by TheRook
Nuto vixen wrote:I don't think it was called for to lock the original topic.

By Jason's view, it should have be dealt with via the ombudsman... who has exactly 0 power to do anything to help this situation.

It's hard to expect a community to trust in you and have faith that you're commitment to the job, or position when you constantly make questionable decisions and follow them up with a "opps, my bad" sort of attitude.

Can the ombudsman really clean up this mess?

Is it really his job?

Bill... what did you get yourself into :shock:


I think the original thread should be unlocked and Bill can use it as for the case raised with him against Jack.

It can also be used as a place where people can discuss the topic in the ombudsman form without overloading that thread for bill.

TheRook