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Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:48 am
by Draleg
Freedom of speech is being able to speak freely without censorship. The right to freedom of speech is guaranteed under international law through numerous human-rights instruments, notably under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, although implementation remains lacking in many countries. The synonymous term freedom of expression is sometimes preferred, since the right is not confined to verbal speech but is understood to protect any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used.
In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country, although the degree of freedom varies greatly. Industrialized countries also have varying approaches to balance freedom with order. For instance, the United States First Amendment theoretically grants absolute freedom, placing the burden upon the state to demonstrate when (if) a limitation of this freedom is necessary. In almost all liberal democracies, it is generally recognized that restrictions should be the exception and free expression the rule; nevertheless, compliance with this principle is often lacking.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:01 am
by weilandsmith
There is freedom to speak. So long as the rights of other people aren't stepped upon by the speaker, then the freedom to speak is there. Authority ensure that freedom of speech isn't abused when speakers attack the dignity of a personality. Authority demands that all accusations are based on factual evidence. Without these factors circumscribing freedom of speech, anybody can say anything about anybody to everybody. Chaos would ensue.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:04 am
by Draleg
I totaly agree with you , but when they take away EVERYBODY's freedom to post in a tread and say they wil penalise if you even try to start a new topic were a long way from home...
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:12 am
by buck
OHHHhhhhh what did i miss...
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:14 am
by Severian
Considering the quality, attitudes and intent, that's a good thing

In before Godwin's Law...
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:19 am
by weilandsmith
Draleg wrote:I totaly agree with you , but when they take away EVERYBODY's freedom to post in a tread and say they wil penalise if you even try to start a new topic were a long way from home...
The thread, i assume, is fuall vs tjp game over? its temporarily closed for modding. it will be opened again.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:22 am
by Draleg
weilandsmith wrote:The thread, i assume, is fuall vs tjp game over? its temporarily closed for modding. it will be opened again.
Yes , but is it so hard to " clean " it and leave it open ?
i'm sorry to bring up RL comparisons but a long time ago some ppl sayed they needed to close off all roads to Berlin for a short period of time , wel they say time is relative but we all know ware that went...
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:24 am
by buck
Draleg wrote:weilandsmith wrote:The thread, i assume, is fuall vs tjp game over? its temporarily closed for modding. it will be opened again.
Yes , but is it so hard to " clean " it and leave it open ?
i'm sorry to bring up RL comparisons but a long time ago some ppl sayed they needed to close off all roads to Berlin for a short period of time , wel they say time is relative but we all know ware that went...
You can hardly compare the two...so dont go there...thats just outragous!
...The reason it seems to have been closed is because it grows so quickly we need to catch up...thats it, you'l have it back soon enough, be happy!
Take a break from it all...god knows yall need it =P
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:38 am
by Severian
What's the rush anyways?
Our side is in it for the very long haul and I can only assume the same is true of yours. So there's many many months still to go for this war (indefinte if need be) and plenty of time to make history and so a couple of days doing routine maintenance isn’t the end of the world or the death of free speech.
At the very least, we won't be caught out during the turn change as a result of spamming on forums anymore (for a day or two at least)

*checks time*
-_-'
*rushes off to bank*
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:41 am
by Draleg
@ Buck :
Denial of impact: Denial of impact involves a person avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms their behavior have caused to themselves or others. By doing this, that person is able to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent that person from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.
@ Severian : thats your vieuw , i have a different one , and this is not a tread about the war so pls dont go there , you may just get a warning.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:46 am
by weilandsmith
c'mon draleg. nimras said he'd unlock the thread after modding. it hasn't even been 24 hours. give him time. it's not as if he's lying. if he's gonna lock the thread for good, then he would say so. give Nimras a chance to work without the added distraction of having to post here and defend what he's done.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:47 am
by Skunky
weilandsmith wrote:c'mon draleg. nimras said he'd unlock the thread after modding. it hasn't even been 24 hours. give him time. it's not as if he's lying. if he's gonna lock the thread for good, then he would say so. give Nimras a chance to work without the added distraction of having to post here and defend what he's done.
yea but is there a point in banning the thread? its spam deal witit, its gona happen during war. even if you keep modding and locking it wont stop it. anyway i created take 5

Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 am
by Severian
Draleg wrote:
@ Severian : thats your vieuw , i have a different one , and this is not a tread about the war so pls dont go there , you may just get a warning.
I was talking about the duration of the war in game and that it would ensure that discussion on it continues for quite some time after the thread is cleared out. I had not raised any politic issues or taken a stab at any side, merely made a fair assumption that both sides are not yet willing to back down which implies that the war threads will go on.
You posted this in Stargatewars general –
forum for all general INGAME discussion. What does that imply? I posted in the spirit of the environment you chose to create this thread.
If this thread has nothing to do with ingame discussion as you are implying and ludicrously stating I may get a warning for (posting my opinion – very ironic wouldn’t you say), then this thread is in the wrong place and that it is you, not I that are at fault.
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:05 am
by Borek
TBH the only stuff i've seen posted lately in the "war" thread was cat pics, spam, insults and whines, and most of those whines are about either the mods or by the mods about the drivel being posted.
If the posters are going to sink to those levels then i don't really blame the mods for locking it. perhaps it's got the the stage where we just need a closed topic detailing who is fighting and who has officially agreed to leave via tributes/whatever?
Re: Well , we seem to have lost somthing ...
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:16 am
by Mathlord
There was nothing wrong with the original thread. People spam of course during war. Making jokes and talking about stuff not war-related allows enemies and allies alike to enjoy eachother's company. Can people spam too much? Certainly, but to pretend it won't happen is being naive.
Now the more you lock these threads, the more you will antagonize the people you are trying to control and the situation will get more and more out of hand. If you try to put a line in the sand, you will have to deal with the situation when everyone crosses it.
And here I thought this war would give us our first 1000 page war thread. Shame.