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most american people i have spoken with on msn want barrack obama to be the next prez but really, is this who want to be your leader???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02Dt ... re=related

forget bushisms, make way for obamaisms

I want McCain. Obviously.

maybe you should take a closer look at mcCain, personally i wouldn't vote for any presidential candidate or congressman who doesn't sign an affidavit declaring he will shut down the federal reserve and bring the troops home

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe you should take a closer look at mcCain, personally i wouldn't vote for any presidential candidate or congressman who doesn't sign an affidavit declaring he will shut down the federal reserve and bring the troops home

Whats with you and wanting to completely kill the US economy? Without the federal reserve we'd be in complete hell right now.

As for the video, a simple slip of the tongue is not surprising from either candidate.

and america is not in hell at the moment?

did i say i wanted the american economy killed? i'm also in support of killing (as you say) the bank of england and every other central bank in the world.
how does returning government back to accountability and making the government responsible for our currency (and taking that privilege away from the international bankers) "kill" anyones economy?

a slip of the tongue?

the man was struggling to find the number before he went on with his speech, he also had to look at an aide to get confirmation, did the aids "tongue" slip as well, couldnt obama hear the people in the background laughing at him??




sigh!

APADAMEK! wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe you should take a closer look at mcCain, personally i wouldn't vote for any presidential candidate or congressman who doesn't sign an affidavit declaring he will shut down the federal reserve and bring the troops home

Whats with you and wanting to completely kill the US economy? Without the federal reserve we'd be in complete hell right now.

As for the video, a simple slip of the tongue is not surprising from either candidate.

the federal reserve is as federal as you and me. It is owned by private bankers that only operate for the intrest of PROFIT, this is the reason we have such a high nation debt and the cause of inflation.

"The bankers own the earth. Take it awy from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again.
However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
~Sir Josiah Stamp
Former Director of The Bank of England

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
~Henery Ford

[KMA]Avenger wrote:most american people i have spoken with on msn want barrack obama to be the next prez but really, is this who want to be your leader???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02Dt ... re=related

forget bushisms, make way for obamaisms

sadly the only thing most people dont understand about obama is his foreign and domestic policy. *sigh* most people just dont realize who they are voting for these days. the political system is so stupid that people think they must be democratic or republican and only vote for that party cause of there political views, when the two are very much the same, the system should be wiped out and people should vote for whoever, not that voting would matter because like Stalin said, "He who votes decides nothing, he who counts votes decides everything."

Ifrit wrote:

APADAMEK! wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe you should take a closer look at mcCain, personally i wouldn't vote for any presidential candidate or congressman who doesn't sign an affidavit declaring he will shut down the federal reserve and bring the troops home

Whats with you and wanting to completely kill the US economy? Without the federal reserve we'd be in complete hell right now.

As for the video, a simple slip of the tongue is not surprising from either candidate.

the federal reserve is as federal as you and me. It is owned by private bankers that only operate for the intrest of PROFIT, this is the reason we have such a high nation debt and the cause of inflation.

"The bankers own the earth. Take it awy from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again.
However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
~Sir Josiah Stamp
Former Director of The Bank of England

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
~Henry Ford

it's also the reason our economy has not plummeted to the dire reaches of complete depression, without the federal reserve, indymac would have become bankrupt, completely destroying thousands upon thousands of people's investments and livelihood in the California area. Bear Stern investments as well would have been destroyed furthering the spiral, thanks to the Fed we've been able to halt what could have been far far worse.



As for Obama; One statement does not describe what the man will be like, he made a mistake, that's all. A very simple one too.

APADAMEK! wrote:

Ifrit wrote:

APADAMEK! wrote:

[KMA]Avenger wrote:maybe you should take a closer look at mcCain, personally i wouldn't vote for any presidential candidate or congressman who doesn't sign an affidavit declaring he will shut down the federal reserve and bring the troops home

Whats with you and wanting to completely kill the US economy? Without the federal reserve we'd be in complete hell right now.

As for the video, a simple slip of the tongue is not surprising from either candidate.

the federal reserve is as federal as you and me. It is owned by private bankers that only operate for the intrest of PROFIT, this is the reason we have such a high nation debt and the cause of inflation.

"The bankers own the earth. Take it awy from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again.
However, take away from them the power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."
~Sir Josiah Stamp
Former Director of The Bank of England

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
~Henry Ford

it's also the reason our economy has not plummeted to the dire reaches of complete depression, without the federal reserve, indymac would have become bankrupt, completely destroying thousands upon thousands of people's investments and livelihood in the California area. Bear Stern investments as well would have been destroyed furthering the spiral, thanks to the Fed we've been able to halt what could have been far far worse.

lmao, if anything is gonna cause a great depression its people who are ignorant. High intrest rates are the cause of an econmy crash along with inflation of currancy, The federal reserve has a contract with the US goverment that says they can break it at any point and if 'The federal Goverment' (who is in debt at the moment) cant not pay its debt then the american people are responsible for its payment, if the people can not afford to make that payment then your property will be seized as asset to the debt. That is your great depression. It would not be the end of the ecomeny as we know it if the federal reserve was shut down. OMG what did Abe Lincion do when he refused to take out a loan from the bankers at high intrest rates??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenback

Our national debt is barely 30% of our GDP, were not in any trouble.

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taken from Encarta Encyclopedia

APADAMEK! wrote:Our national debt is barely 30% of our GDP, were not in any trouble.

i fail to see how walking a razors edge is "not in any trouble"


the last thing i want to look like is hostile or judgmental so please don't think that of me, i don't think i am better than anyone here on these boards and all i wish is to raise awareness of the danger's that surround us, i have researched many aspects of our current political environment and it is NOT in good shape, in fact i would go as far as to say that our leaders and the international bankers are engaged in a 3rd world war against the citizens of this planet and everything else is window dressing designed for 1 purpose...to keep us all occupied while they enslave the common man, destroy the middle class and dumb us down so we don't become aware of this esoteric agenda.

if people knew the truth about how the bank of england and the international bankers have instigated and funded both sides in every war since the Napoleonic era (why would a bank/er fund both sides? because the winner has to pay the losers debt, thats fact go see for yourself), and how the international bankers gained a foothold in the US and took over its economy with the establishment of a central bank system and has been the cause of every major economic down turn and crash...they would burn these people alive!

try researching how the Rothschild's crashed the british economy and bought up all the stocks (for pennies on the pound) to gain total and supreme control of englands economy after napoleon lost at the battle of Trafalgar and 24 hours before the world got the news that napoleon had lost.

this is recorded history and none of this is fallacy, made up or the illusions of anyones mind, all this is fact and easily researched.

yes we need banks and maybe a central bank but NOT in private hands, that is asking for trouble and we are getting just that!

our currency's are based on debt and not a gold and silver standard but the trouble is that to have money based on debt requires ever spiraling inflation for it to carry on but how can inflation carry on forever without crashing? its impossible!
the day will come when the bankers will call in all debts and crash the world markets rendering all paper money useless and unless you have gold to pay your debts you will be in serious doodoo.

the European bankers have taken control of the US economy the day the illegal and unconstitutional federal reserve was created and the sooner america (as well as england and every other nation) kicks these international criminals into the sea and throws in their central bank after them the better things will be for every one on the planet, right now british and american troops are fighting wars based on lies instead of taking care of its people, our governments are engaged in genocide instead of providing homes and jobs for people in our country's, and who is benefiting from these illegal wars?

not the people of any of the country's involved, the banks, corporations and elected officials are doing just fine tho...

It's pretty common knowledge that the cost of making money is lower than the face value of the same money. So when the dollar is made for pennies and sold [yes, sold] to the U.S. Federal Treasury, the Federal Reserve is making about 95 cents worth of profit off the people of the U.S. Add to that fact the facts of Interest rates charged and you find yourself looking at the first ever, long established, Ponzi scheme.

i haven't read the entire thread so i just say this:

obama: LOL

fed: usa managed very well for over 100 years without fed. few years after fed had entered the scene there was the great depression.

interesting how when bush says something everybody's taking the mickey out of him right away. when obama says something it's a "slip of a tongue"

Anyone who has managed to get into the position of being voted upon is already completely corrupt, 'they' wouldnt allow any free thinkers to have a seat of power so voting is pointless, in the long run anyone of the candidates will cause the same amount of damage.

Not that any of this will matter, soon both the US and the UK aswell as many other countries will either be in depression or uproar. Im not sure what its like in the US but in the UK i get the feeling those who can actually think (<1%) are very angered at the direction the country is heading.

Personally i think there will be riots within 5 years, and i will be one of the people rioting. It is completely unfair how the majority of the world are treated and i'm more angered at the fact that all our leaders could be doing a far 'better' job. When i say 'better' i mean 'not make things much much much worse' as they are doing now.

Its time to think and 'get mad' to quote the crazy guy from zeitgeist. Do not believe the BS they spout on the 'tube'. Imo, terrorists are about as real as a fairytale, it is all a mechanism to control the masses, to keep them in check and give the rulers not only the ability to forcibly seek whatever they want, but to get billions of people behind them cheering them on.

Terrorism is the religion of this age, simply a way to control each and every one of us and any candidate willing to employ this method of control is a bad candidate imo.

Rant over/

Don.