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Attacking messed up again

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:42 pm
by blahh
Not sure if any1 mentioned this already, but here it goes,

A while ago, some braniac by the name of mojo sinking was cryn over that its posible to mass with lower strike than def, so eventualy the damage to attacking troops was raised and made sorta dynamic so smaller strikes took in alot more damages.

This in a weird way affected those of us who had attack planets, as damage was calculated by power, and dealt so too, so you ended up loosing alot even thoug you sent in only a small attack force backed up by planets.


Later on that got "fixed", now for the past few weeks i seem to be seeing the same dejavu all over again

up to 5% losses on successful attack and up to 16 or so % losses on a failed attack..

thats all lovely and sweet, but the problem is losses in defence are caped to 2.5%...

all of that makes attacking a bit less (alot actualy) profitable, even for those of us who "specialized" in it(meaning biger mss, attack planets, ect...).

now while i get that defs arent ment to go away like butter on sun the real problem is this doenst realy affect massings.

Most massings nowadays are done with 1at, simply because they (for some odd reason) turn the losses to "wirtualy" non existing and make massing as cheap as it can get.


TY for taking the time, when you actualy do to look into it, if you need any refference logs, feel free to check ids22221 incoming and outgoing :)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:29 am
by blahh
bump for the topic,

massed a guy with 900bil def using 1 at loosing the same ammount of supers as i did with 3 failed (15ats)attacks because another guy, similar def got 3 blessings, now if that aint retarded, idk what is :)

any1 in admin crew alive? :)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:17 am
by TheRook
blahh wrote:bump for the topic,

massed a guy with 900bil def using 1 at loosing the same ammount of supers as i did with 3 failed (15ats)attacks because another guy, similar def got 3 blessings, now if that aint retarded, idk what is :)

any1 in admin crew alive? :)


I think its been well known 1AT massings have major issues as its loads loads cheaper...

will it be fixed? maybe.... maybe not...

TheRook

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:28 am
by blahh
TheRook wrote:I think its been well known 1AT massings have major issues as its loads loads cheaper...

will it be fixed? maybe.... maybe not...

TheRook


Thats ok, i dont mind it but heres the issue....

be4 some1 cried, the losses per hit were caped... in defence to 2.5% in attack to 3.5% ... so some1 cryed that its too easy to mass ppl and the def losses stayed caped at 2.5% while attacking losses went throug the roof...

now personaly i thought that to be an idiotic idea, but thats just me, admin was aperently fond of it.

but the silly part of the story is, massing is still cheap, you just use 1ats... the only thing that got nerfered was farming, and lately its gotten worse (past month or so) i mean up to 15% a hit losses, and some idiots get like 4blessings in a row on me, i might just start 1at massing evry and than when i m sure they are at 1/2 of my strike take the 15at naq ... thoug that is retarded.

point of it being, he wanted to hurt massers, he hurt farmers, considering there are realy 3 ways to stay acitve in the game, 1 being raiding 2 being trading, 3 being farming... 1 and 2 are limited to the size, 3 is being driven extinct by ridiculus losses...
what exactly is admins idea here suicide by smoking?

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:31 am
by TheRook
he just needs to add another image/button for a 1AT hit then click that 15 times for your farming ;)

TheRook

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:29 am
by blahh
that would be one of solutions, not the best one thoug. This game already has too much of ow thats screwed lets put some makeup over it, than a year later, why the hell does that work like that and this doesnt work like this when all the make up starts to crossfire, stuf going on.

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:13 pm
by Richard_Destroyer
Bump For Blahh cause he seems to be victom of many bugs last few weeks. :-D :-D

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:11 am
by blahh
lol, well acutaly we all are, its just i m idealistic enough still to think admin gives a crap for this game and bother posting them in hopes of him fixing them. But as it looks i ll have to join the majority in its opinion, that admin aperently just doesnt give a dam :)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:42 am
by Clarkey
In yesterdays Admin chat, J did say he will be back here soon to concentrate on the bugs section. :-)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:09 am
by blahh
how exciting,

on a side note, a new peak over 17 % of attacking troops eradicated in a single 12 at hit :)

yeeey for the briliance of coding :)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:23 am
by Pef
i can only agree with blahh here , tho i am ussualy found on the receiving end
of 15 AT hits , i somehow seem to manage to kill 10 to 30 times (1000 to 3000%) more units than those lost by me .
this is obviously alot of fun , as my kills of enemy supers climb few millions each day with no effort at all (i merely sleep or watch por.. or anyway doing nothing)
this maybe partly for the new updates that cripple attackers ... the more they send , the more they lose ... and also for the heavy use of defence planets.
on the other hand , 1 AT attacks do however seem to ignore these nice
ratios and sometimes reverse them ... depending on MS power and attack planets.

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:56 am
by blahh
well considering nice talking and reporting does **Filtered** aperently here, i m left witht he only other alternative

since farming realy is, well broderline profitable but 1at massing isnt..

i ll be visiting random ppl with significant enough losses on a totaly random selection proces (or the more to loose the better) till this issue is resolved. the ammount per day will variate mostly on time to waste on my hands.

todays lucky champ had a good 30mil troops in defence out of 60mil total size, apernetly he doesnt agree with the curent setup of attacking quite strongly as after the massing he decided to change his name from SETH[GoD] to deleted__SETH[GoD]

hope there are many more to come.

Till next time

Blahh, a proud member of the SGW terorist elite :)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:19 am
by Angel_F1re
blahh wrote:todays lucky champ had a good 30mil troops in defence out of 60mil total size, apernetly he doesnt agree with the curent setup of attacking quite strongly as after the massing he decided to change his name from SETH[GoD] to deleted__SETH[GoD]

hope there are many more to come.

Till next time

Blahh, a proud member of the SGW terorist elite :)


I'm surprised you hadn't already educated him.

:?

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:41 am
by blahh
I ve stoped with "education" a while ago, but now i guess i can restart under a less noble goal apernelty ;)

Re: Attacking messed up again

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:25 pm
by blahh
bump