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Well, it's not uncommon for me to get noobs attempting to mass me or sab me, but this one is a little different.

Walu
id = 1943936

I first noticed his attack when i checked my alliance logs, because it was so small that it made no dent in my stats. I then check my intel logs and yes he's tried recon too.

I spy on him and see he has 123 ATs (this bit is important).
He also has 1400 fleet on just a 15 day old account. He has 200 miners so hardly any income.

I send him a short but sweet message saying:
"Bad curiosity."

Very shortly after that I have sabotage attempts against me, and several lifer suicide attempts against me.
His army size was also fluctuating after he had attacked me. It went something like this:
52,766
52,762
52,486
47,863
53,271
59,575

My initial thought was he jumped to 52,766 by raiding, then started attacks against someone (not me as he hadn't hit me again). Then I thought he must have raided a few more to get it to 59,575. The interesting thing is though that I continued to spy him during the fluctuations in his army size.... he constantly remained on 123 ATs throughout.

These are the times of the attacks:

00:38 - Attack
00:47 - Lifer Suicide
00:48 - Lifer Suicide
00:48 - Lifer Suicide

I spied him at 00:45 (after the first attack but before the first lifer suicide). He had 123 ATs. I then spied him at 00:50 after the 3 lifer suicide attempts and he had 123 ATs.

He also had 3.3b naq out just sitting there after his army stopped fluctuating. But 200 miners don't produce that much.

His army went up to 59,575 which basically got his strike nearly back to what it originally was after the first attack.... not anymore though as he seemed to lose approx 20k due to some of my men taking it upon themselves to change that.

So my questions are....

1) Why did his ATs remain at 123 throughout his attacks against me
2) Why did his army fluctuate up and down when his ATs remained at 123
3) Where did the 3.3b come from if his ATs remained at 123?

He has a CO, but if he was supplying him with uu then why not do it in one lump? If he was supplying him with ATs then why just give him a few to keep him constantly at 123????

ID to be checked out:

id = 1943936

hmm diffenatly odd, im not sure if lifer sucide takes ATs but does seem suspeious.

Yes, Lifer Suicide uses 10 ATs... no more, no less. So he should have used up 30 ATs.

AT's he coulda had a friend send them to him, as for his army jumping a few thousand troops is nothing, they could have been mercs, at that small armysize it would explain it,

If his armysize was going up and down millions every few mins id be sus,

Also incase it escaped your attention there is still a massive server war going on, common raid targets have 10x what they normally would have out due to the fact no one is raiding, you could easily hit someone for 10k UU in 1 raid attack....

Everything you posted is explainable and it only needs 1 person / friend to help him.

My guess is they may very well be a noob and not understand the lifer suicide or how to mass/attack so they had a friend send them attack turns until they gave up.

Hell ive sent attack turns/ UU to friends when they are massing someone, does that make them and me a multi...

This community is way to jumpy these days.

So his friend supplies him with exactly enough ATs to keep him at 123 ATs. That in itself is odd.
I spy him after the first attack and he had 123 ATs, then 5 minutes later after he carries out 3 lifer suicide attacks against me which would use up 30 ATs and I spy him he is still on 123 ATs. Like I said, that in itself is odd.

EDIT: FYI I just rechecked my covert logs and throughout the entire thing he had 4 strike mercs and 0 defence mercs. It was infact his army that was going up and down. Therefore that rules out the merc thought.

Ok so the merc thing is out, but there are still ppl out there that you can hit with 15 AT's and take 10k+ UU.

I didn't say they were not a multi, nor it wasnt strange, but it can all be explained.

he could have some of those personal turns u can make with 3 mt`s.
when u attack they are used first not the naturally generated turns.
and they dont show up when u spy on them

Interesting, hadn't thought of that one. That's a possibility.

Can you have that option without FSS?

I would doubt it, as they require 3 MT's to get, do u know they dont have FSS?

cos its a 15 day old account

clarkey wrote:
I spy on him and see he has 123 ATs (this bit is important).
He also has 1400 fleet on just a 15 day old account. He has 200 miners so hardly any income.

GeneralChaos wrote:I would doubt it, as they require 3 MT's to get, do u know they dont have FSS?

Yes i do know they don't have FSS.

you dont need fss to be able to trade mt`s for personal turns, its the same as when u buy mpdsd u just click a button

1400 fleets is really easy to get from zero. i know someone who recently started and it wasnt much. just have to find 4-8b farms with 0 def. raise it real quick

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clarkey wrote:
He also had 3.3b naq out just sitting there after his army stopped fluctuating. But 200 miners don't produce that much.


3) Where did the 3.3b come from if his ATs remained at 123?



id = 1943936

i am a newb to this game my self but the 3.3b naq can be explained through the in game official black market. 3.3b naq is almost identical to the current rate you would receive from spending $50 on the official in game black market ( does fluctuate )

i apologize if i have spoken out of turn.