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The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:23 am
by Juliette
Sorry Semper. :P I just love a good idea when I see one, brother.

Here's one for yall. REAL villains.
So here's the deal.. do you know these people? And if you do, which three do you feel are the worst?


Keep in mind that scale of crime is relative; if you are a head of state and kill 20 million people, does that make you more of a villain as your neighbour who goes to schools in neighbouring states every day to kill schoolgirls?
Just food for thought before slamming the lid on Hitler.. for example. ;)

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:37 am
by Legendary Apophis
Some of them I don't know, so I can't tell :o
For me, I'd say Josef Mengele

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:38 am
by Londo Mollari
before i vote could you add Chairman Mao to the list

also, it might help if you explain who Edward Teach is (Blackeard)

might also want to add Charles Manson to that list

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:40 am
by weilandsmith
Stalin would be the ultimate followed by Hitler. Perhaps Nero should have been included.

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:42 am
by Legendary Apophis
For anyone who doesn't know who that guy is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

Paul Pot would qualify well in the line of Hitler, Stalin etc...with his khmer rouge, mass murder of millions of Cambodians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Angel_ ... gyr%C3%A9v

ouch indeed :shock:

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:51 am
by Juliette
Al Capone [spoiler](Scarface)(1899-1947)[/spoiler]
John Gotti [spoiler](1940-2002) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti[/spoiler]
David Berkowitz (".44 Caliber Killer") [spoiler]U.S. serial killer, better known as the "Son of Sam"[/spoiler]
Josip Stalin
Angelmakers of Nagryev [spoiler]a group of 26 Hungarian serial killers; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Angel_ ... gyr%C3%A9v[/spoiler]
Jesse James
Nevada-tan [spoiler]Japanese schoolgirl murderess who committed the Sasebo slashing.[/spoiler]
Edward Teach [spoiler]Blackbeard; Pirate.[/spoiler]
Adolph Hitler



Sect leaders as Warren Jeffs and Manson are not included as they are part of the 'organised crime' group, which is represented by Al Capone and John Gotti.
Chairman Mao will not be added, as his group (Heads of State) is sufficiently represented by Adolph Hitler and Josip Stalin.


By all means; list your own villains! Please do however pick and choose from the above list, in addition to whoever you want to add to the list. :)
I would say "the more, the merrier", but that would come out wrong, given the subject.

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:55 am
by Legendary Apophis
Hitler is for me.

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:59 am
by semper
lol..stalin = pricelss.

Hitler and capone join him on my list!

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:12 pm
by Juliette
Legendary Apophis wrote:Hitler is for me.

I could SOOO misquote you on that one. :P

Semper wrote:lol..stalin = pricelss.

Hitler and capone join him on my list!

I'm with you on Hitler..
Some others though.. :o

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:17 pm
by Legendary Apophis
Lois Lane wrote:
Legendary Apophis wrote:Hitler is for me.

I could SOOO misquote you on that one. :P

Semper wrote:lol..stalin = pricelss.

Hitler and capone join him on my list!

I'm with you on Hitler..
Some others though.. :o

Yes but you're not like that :P
Hitler is for me the ultimate factual villain.
Taht's ok there? :-D

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:29 pm
by Juliette
I would be honoured and delighted to hear Sempers argument to why Capone is one of the worlds villains. :)

Will you honour me, please? :D

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:53 pm
by semper
valentines day massacre anyone? Do I need to say more?

Seven people on Valentines day? To me thats just...wow. A day dedicated to LOVE, and he brought so much hate.

He is italien and married and irish lass, I have italien and irish in me :wink: (more of the former)

He was 'the' gangster, he became a public enemy (who wouldnt want to be public enemy number one for a day just for kicks..) and as far as I know he made a bloody dam big wage each year, eventually going mad and dying.

The man sounds too much like me..lol.
oh and we have similarities in features.

So yeah, al capone, may be small time on the tally chart for kills in comparison to say Hitler and Stalin, but he stands out for me above the rest despite my likeness for Jesse James, he was an American, as to was the .44 calibre killer if memory serves (which it does most of the time, but I can be wrong..it has been known to happen..from time to time.) and Americans are generally too stupid/nice to be real villains.

I think you might have missed the zodiac killer off there Lois (his identity is unknown, so I shall presume he was mexican or something..), as well as maybe Rasputin....enough poison to kill a whale? How many bullets? Stabbed? Drunk all the time and thousands of lovers? The guy was awesome...

What about Black beard? It took something like 45 musket shots to kill that bugger! Plus he was one of the most notorious pirates of all time and very influential in popular culture.

Maybe Ghengis Khan? Carved out an empire beaten only by the English!

Vlad tepis? The impaler? Legendary origin of Count Dracula.

:-D :wink:

edit: You wish jack...lol.
Your not a villain, I dont know where all this bad jack reputation has arisen from, ur just another mod doing what they believe is their job. :)

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:01 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
question... "josep stalin"?

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:16 pm
by semper
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:question... "josep stalin"?


are u marvelling at the spelling or actually who the guy is?

because if its the latter I suggest you use this wonderful invention psi...

its called google.

Re: The Ultimate Factual Villain

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:47 pm
by Psi Kiya Trist
Semper wrote:
Psi Kiya Trist wrote:question... "josep stalin"?


are u marvelling at the spelling or actually who the guy is?

because if its the latter I suggest you use this wonderful invention psi...

its called google.


the former... i used the latter before i came forward with the question.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~