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whether or not the threat of the NWO (New World Order) is real or not.

well since we had George Bush senior announce that we did indeed have a new world order on the date of get this...9/11 1991 or in british date format 11th of september 1991.

for all those that dont believe Bush snr said it you can click the link below and hear it from the horses mouth (only 33 seconds long).
of course this does not constitute total or absolute evidence and should be taken in context with other evidence to support the claim that the NWO is real and all around us:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6851144110



we have also had both Tony Blair and Gordon Brown announce on live TV that we have a new world order, this is FACT it was on TV and announced to the whole world by all 3 and them saying the words "New World Order" makes it indisputable, undeniable, irrefutable and beyond debate, why is it such? because their is visible and audible proof, so it becomes historic fact!

we also have staged state executed terror attacks on our fellow citizens which is also undeniable, irrefutable and indisputable because documents have been declassified which PROVE IT.

we have a massive amount of evidence and all of it on government paper, 1 example is the resent declassification of an FBI document penned by J. Edger Hoover. in this memo to the CIA Hoover names George Bush snr as a MAJOR accomplice in the assassination of J.F.K.
he's not named as a shooter but is named as 1 of the shooters handlers....thats a very big subject in its own right and 1 i dont want to get bogged down on in this thread.

theres a wealth of evidence, you only have to look at operations such as "the gulf of tonkin" "operation northwoods" the mind control project called "MK ultra".
this is all declassified stuff and the governments even admit to the documents validity, so my questions are...

why is it so hard to believe that our governments lie to us about almost everything to keep us in the dark?

why is it so difficult to believe any of it when its all admitted and backed up by official documents?

why is it so hard to believe that governments have orchestrated attacks against its own people in order to get public opinion to go along with their foreign and domestic policy's?

politicians of every nation have been caught lying about all sorts of things, and all public opinion polls rate their credibility at a historic all time low and yet people still think they are doing their jobs and have our best interests at heart...i don't understand that kind of logic and reasoning, i really don't


we are not talking about martians, bigfoot or fairies and unicorns here, we are talking about DOCUMENTED FACTS here!

i cant understand how people can dump us in the same category as either religious or tin foil hat wearing nutjobs, thats like saying all whites are racist, all black people are criminals, all americans are stupid, every single german in the 30's and 40's was a nazi and up until the early 90's-every single russian was a communist...

thats just insane!

anyways, this is not a discussion about any single event so lets not get bogged down on the validity of say 9/11 or 7/7, instead use single events as example's, and lets debate why its so hard to believe when the evidence is there for anyone willing to look.


happy flaming

Its simple... people dont believe things even when there is hard facts because they dont want to be outside their comfort zone, they prefure to live in ignorance rather then face the cold truth.

Always like your topic avenger, always an intereasting read

lol thanks, and yes that is the reason they don't believe and the reason they try and ridicule every conspiracy as "crazy" without even trying to disprove any of it...

the main problem is that EVERYONE knows that deep down their is something seriously wrong with the world yet by the same token they say everything will be ok...

their welcome to that fallacy but i wont be part of it, if something is wrong then you stand up and admit it....

thats the way i see it anyways.

I never said all was lies, but in that, much is invention.
Iraqi war was built on lies. Afghan war wasn't. Argue as you want, talibans would be still here otherwise. Talibans being US' production? Yes, it's same as Asurans used by Atlantis to fight the Wraith, sadly the Asurans appeared to be worse than the Wraith, and be fought instead.

what you see is apathy.

the desire to actually do something about a certain situation does not exist. they know it's there, but they refuse to do anything about it. it's preferable to live the "normal" life earning $$ and having 2.5 children.

what is not very clear to most is that all events will eventually unfold and that someday soon, they will witness it. perhaps, most would wish it to be "not in this lifetime", therefore, not my problem.

i agree about the NWO. our own presidents having spouting BS like joining the NWO or being part of the NWO through economic policies designed by the WTO and WB. all this serves to do is to remove power from the government and transfer it to the corporations.

In the Philippines, which was under the IMF, one of the requirements to graduate from the limitations of the IMF program was for the government to divest itself of all control over oil, electricity, water and other infrastructure to turn them over to private corporations.

as for oil prices, what is happening now has happened before.

Back then, Saddam Hussein was a rebel. With the help of the US, they took the King of Iraq from power and installed the government that Saddam would eventually lead. Overnight, the prices of oil doubled and the $$ soared in value. This cause countries from latin america, africa and asia to lose a lot since most of their debts also doubled in value.

that situation is comparable to what is happening now. except that this time, it's not going to be the $$ but the british pound. see how the british refuse to give in to the euro.

in biblical prophecy, "the lion will shed the wings of the eagle". According to symbologists, the eagle represents America while the lion represents Britain.

things are happening now. but we all prefer to live as we please, sparing no thought for what can be clearly seen.

erm jim, 3 things my old friend,

1) can we please leave the fictional world of TV entertainment programing out of a debate about real and tangible things that are happening and that have happened?

2) this topic is not aimed at anyone and we can call it a fact finding topic because i want to see why people think the way they do when their is evidence to the contrary.

3) its a well known, common knowledge fact that the Afghani's were funded, armed and trained by the CIA to draw the Russian forces into a "Vietnam" style conflict. and when the war was done and soviet russia collapsed the Americans told the taliban leaders that a pipeline was to be built threw afghanistan and that they could have and i quote "a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs".
the afghans wanted a bigger slice of the profits and when the americans said no the afghans burnt all the poppy fields and the americans gave the taliban (not sure of the exact figure) about 145 million dollars as a "good job" reward for burning the poppy fields and then the americans wiped them out.


anything else mate?


good post weiland

People don't seem to concentrate on what is important, and only hunt and seek for rotten apples...
What is important?
See my topic. It solves many thing as a snow ball effect.
I know what I say, since I joined this game I analyzed all sides of view. As a conclusion, I came with that.

Did I deny the fact Americans trained talibans?
No, I even shown a perfect example to explain it.

They don't believe because they are sheep, following a head of "power" and "greater knowledge" as such...They are brought up and will remain to live this way for the rest of their lives... Also KMA, I enjoy your threads apart from the flamers, keep it up, with efforts you will open a few people's eyes even though it may be the minority! Also look around for a paper called Profane Existance(http://www.profaneexistence.com/) check the magazine section and get yourself a few issue's as they do address topics that you start) and a book called A World without Fear but it is rather hard to come by and I can't remember the Author but if you find it read the description and you will know its the 1 right away!

Since we're not keeping television series as comparison material, can we also lose the mythology references? Thank you.

thanks cloak, the vote of confidence does much to reaffirm my belief in humanity. i'll defo have a look into that book and magazine.

@jim, many people seem to be making the mistake that this is happening of its own accord and do not realize that modern society all over the world and the problems each and everyone of us faces are engineered by the CFR, trilateral comity, Rockefeller's, Rothschild's, IMF, world bank, the british monarchy and the vatican...

point in case is the destruction of the family unit and the tradition of getting married BEFORE starting a family, which was done threw womens lib which was the brainchild of and funded by the Rockefeller's.

another case in point is the stupid and ludicrous fallacy that global warming is happening because of humans burning fossil fuels. this is madness because the sun is warming up as proved by the fact that mars is losing its polar caps at a quicker rate than the earth and some of jupitors moons which were solid ice a few years ago are now liquid seas, as well as the fact that 9000+ scientists have petitioned our leaders to tell the truth and they were told to shut up because our leaders are pushing for a global carbon tax...this is madness of the highest order because we will have to buy carbon tax from the bankers in order to breath

none of what i have said is a creation of anyone on the net, this is fact which has been openly discussed by our leaders.

please don't fall into the trap that any of this is because our society is out of control, it has been planned to be this way.

Okay G.. you've got me. I'm convinced.


So, now that I know all this, am I supposed to be .. what exactly?
Supposed to feel something now? Do something? Go out and yell about it?
What must I do!?

Now that I am convinced of all this, I somehow still don't feel the indignation that seems to permeate the masses here.. maybe I am a bad believer.

i'm not out to convince people of anything

read first post to see what i mean


if you truly believe then its up to you what you do from here on in.

Sir Josiah Stamp, former head of the Bank of England:

“Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin... Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... Take this great power away from them, and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in... But, if you want to continue to be the slaves of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.”


this pretty much sums up who owns the world and why things are the way they are.

i'm currently looking for a quote which will explain why none of this is reported in the media and why we are all under attack via the TV and the media.

Interesting:-

SIN = Social Insurance Number.

Some of my favorite and not so favorite historical Quotes:

“For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as “internationalists” and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” –David Rockefeller from his own memoirs.

"Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.” Meyer Amschal Rothschild, International banker

“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. –Benjamin Franklin

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” –Thomas Jefferson

The founders were in my opinion the wises men to have ever grace the world to date.

you're wrong on many things i see. atleast you seem to be having fun discussing bs. enjoy!