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Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:58 am
by Darkalbino_
How does one create an 'undescendable' ascension account. Something to do with producing more then 1/3rd your LF points every 3hrs ?? is this possible? and if so, how?
thankyou to all in advance
im rather new to ascension server
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:04 am
by Rudy Peña
Who u trying to decend?
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:07 am
by Tacet
That would theoretically work, but I haven't seen anyone capable of doing that, and I know a few HUGE accounts. The easiest is to keep a few good farms. When someone tries to descend you, you farm for DMU, convert the DMU to LF Cache, and convert the LF cache to LF reserves.
BTW - it would have to be more than 1/3 of your LF reserves, which a totally different goal entirely.
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:12 am
by Darkalbino_
im not trying to descend anyone, its just.. i had a guy descending me every 3hrs for 35 straight hours.
i had to wake up every 5hrs just to refill my LF then got bored and let him just do it.. its not fun ill tel you that lol.
Surely there has to be a point where you produce so much LF it becomes more then one third. Im going to try and attempt it, it should be possible unless the rate at which LF is created is also based on your total amount.
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:19 am
by Lore
the main idea was to keep you max life force low, and keep alot of reserves i think.
Or you can go the other way, and increase your defenses to the point they can not get the 1/3 max damage. There are people who have their ascended beings defenses high enough it would take 30+ hours to deascended them, and then only if they never refilled and stayed totally inactive
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:26 am
by Tacet
Lore wrote:the main idea was to keep you max life force low, and keep alot of reserves i think.
Not really feasible. Your regeneration numbers are dependent on your reserves, which is directly dependent on the amount of LF you have. And you cannot refill much more reserves than you have max. I suspect that the little you can go over is rather a bug than by design, though it is little enough not to really matter.
My reserves are exactly 15 times my normal LF, and I think that is a global constant. Meaning that if you keep a small max LF, you will have little reserves.
If you can't log on often enough you will have to work on defences, as Lore said, and on a high max LF. That will be cheaper than to work only on high def.
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:29 am
by Darkalbino_
well atm my ascended being is relatively crap =D so im a perfect candidate for this. Im ok with stat posting, It doesnt bother me.
Ascended Life Force 0 / 6,128,000
Ascended Life Force Cache 31,007,986,306
Ascended Life Force Reserves 0 / 91,920,000
(ive been descended)
Energy Attack Power Level
Energy Attack Skill
Energy Absorbtion Power
Energy Absorbtion Skill
Personal Constitution
Am I correct in saying that none of the above have anything to do with this..?
Energy Flow Ability
151
Energy Channeling Skill 257
These two would have something to do with it?
Maximum Natural Energy Capacity 250
And thats what I keep relatively low?
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:30 am
by Darkalbino_
Oh, so the rate at which LF is regenerated is dependent on max held? :/
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:35 am
by Tacet
Darkalbino_ wrote:Energy Attack Power Level
Energy Attack Skill
Above two helps you to ascend others.
Energy Absorbtion Power
Energy Absorbtion Skill
Personal Constitution
These three, as well as Energy repulsion, protects your LF against attacks. Those are your defence, and you might want to invest in them.
Am I correct in saying that none of the above have anything to do with this..?
Energy Flow Ability
151
Energy Channeling Skill 257
These two would have something to do with it?
Yep, they determine how fast your normal LF, and your reserves, respectively, recharge.
Maximum Natural Energy Capacity 250
And thats what I keep relatively low?
I honestly can't see the point in keeping it low. The higher it goes, the faster you recharge in any case (they're linked to each other). Also, if you can get it high enough you might actually get it higher than your attacker's, making it difficult for them to get to that 1/3 mark.
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:37 am
by Tacet
Darkalbino_ wrote:Oh, so the rate at which LF is regenerated is dependent on max held? :/
Yes, test it for yourself. Make note of your recharge rates, upgrade your max 1 lvl, and look at your recharge rates again. It's been a while since I've verified it, but I don't think it changed.
*edit* not only on max LF, but also on the recharge rate: Energy Flow Ability
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:44 am
by Lore
if you had kept your NMEC low, like say rank 1 maybe 10 at the most, then dumped heavily into Flow and channeling, they your recover would be faster then the 1/3 hit damage. But much has changed since that was used. Its more used for a dead account.
At your levels your more in need of high defensive levels, and use income farming to refill.
With high TOC and high repulsion/constitution skills, its often the attacker who takes more damage then the defender.
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:11 pm
by Darkalbino_
Im not sure what the following mean, but this is my introspection before and after a little rehaul.. will do more soon.. can someone tell me what use it is lol
Before
Personal Life Force
Ascended Life Force Reserves 0 / 91,920,000
Ascended Life Force 2,361,324 / 6,128,000
Ascended Life Force Cache 31,007,986,306
Ascended Life Force Maximum Level 250
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 590,331 Ascended Life Force
Energy Flow Level 151
Reserve / Cache Rate Per Turn While at Maximum
(LF fills first(fast), then reserves(slower), then cache(slowest) 419,257 / 209,629 Ascended Life Force
Energy Channeling Level 257
Number of Ascended Resurrections Saved 0
After
Ascended Life Force Reserves 0 / 91,920,000
Ascended Life Force 2,361,324 / 6,128,000
Ascended Life Force Cache 23,341,864,691
Ascended Life Force Maximum Level 250
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 1,353,267 Ascended Life Force
Energy Flow Level 400
Reserve / Cache Rate Per Turn While at Maximum
(LF fills first(fast), then reserves(slower), then cache(slowest) 638,333 / 319,167 Ascended Life Force
Energy Channeling Level 400
Number of Ascended Resurrections Saved 0
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 1,353,267 Ascended Life Force
This should be the thing I would go hard out on, correct?
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:01 pm
by Darkalbino_
Ok I have come to the conclusion that its deffinately possible. (however have not double checked that LF recovery rate is also dependent on Ascended Life Force Maximum Level
Ascended Life Force Reserves 0 / 91,920,000
Ascended Life Force 2,361,324 / 6,128,000
These have to be kept low. Very low.
Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 1,659,667 Ascended Life Force
This as high as possible.
If im correct(im not sure 100%) I would need my Ascended Life Force Recovery Rate Per Turn 16,341,334 Ascended Life Force(one sixth of LF + LF reserves put together +1) to make an undescendable account. A never to be descended account.
Ps:Is this right? :S
Influence Power 54,130,532,647,750 Ranked 1
Re: Undescendable account..?
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:26 pm
by Lore
Darkalbino_ wrote:
Ps:Is this right? :S
Influence Power 54,130,532,647,750 Ranked 1
anytime you upgrade in the power ups section it shoots you to rank one, been a bug for months and months.