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Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:58 am
by Draleg
I am not at war with FUALL , so this is about ingame politics not GC stuff.
It seems the weeks pass by and i am getting attacked more by the ppl on my side then on the TJP side ( by my own recuest non the less ) and i'm shure that its the same on " the other side " so , to the point .
Wat do both sides really want ? cos i can buy MPSD's indefenatly and so can a lot of other ppl on all sides and the only one getting off better is Jason ( no disrespect there ubercoder , you deserve some $$ for your work and servercost )
Wat do the other alliances not involved think ? keep going cos then they get bigger and get left alone ?
Has the game really gotten boring or is it just a figment of the imagination ?
feel free to post your vision on wat the " Game over " war means to the server.
Re: Draleg vs FUALL and visa versa
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:01 am
by Envy
Honeslty wars like that are sorry crap...
been their done that etc etc ... people can keep re-building , people can keep flaming and above all I left those big allainces now...
All the naps all the stuff thats giong arround is just braking this game in half terrible as it may sound Draleg THE GROUPS are to big it got boring.
they'll fight endlessy could give me tha bomb honestly. Im more out for fun than boredom...
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:06 am
by Curumo
The wars are set up in a way that you cannot win them unless the opponent surrenders...
The groups have possibly indeed grown too big as there are many tag hiders unfortunately ...
I know the thing that makes the game boring are naps and people whining ... And of course the FMA ... since people don't dare retaliate or something, which isn't what most of us want really.
That's just part of my point of view since i don't want to type an essay here ... Good topic though ...
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:08 am
by Draleg
nice one there Envy .
i wold just want to ask of the ppl replying in this tread that is has nothing to do with the war , i dont want to read : they started this and we did not start it , its the consequenses that interest me.
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:10 am
by Envy
Curumo wrote:The wars are set up in a way that you cannot win them unless the opponent surrenders...
The groups have possibly indeed grown too big as there are many tag hiders unfortunately ...
I know the thing that makes the game boring are naps and people whining ... And of course the FMA ... since people don't dare retaliate or something, which isn't what most of us want really.
That's just part of my point of view since i don't want to type an essay here ... Good topic though ...
Yea well thats what I mean , how can u keep some action in a game with super groups , yea been in one ... I barely got hit in peace times. Grew a head or 2 ... but thats that , I didn't play the game what it was ment for.
besides Im just saying is after this war FUALL and TJP¨has whats the next step the server that will be spitted in 2 with naps ?
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:11 am
by Teal'auc of the Void
Well, i personally dunno what they want.. but at least I have plenty vultures to mass...
I am hell of a sure that no side will surrender and it will lead to players quitting on both side. Nobody will gain anything on this war. It's just war of two egos; let's face it, that's all it's about. If it's a good thing or not, that's topic for another long and rather hot discussion. But I guess both sides can reply... at least for themselves, where the truth is.
Teal'auc
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:13 am
by Draleg
you have to admit , there is a war on and its not really exiting cos nobody is bilding anything and ppl are just living of wat they make on ptt and a bit of farming.
There are exeptions but thats maybe 10% of the ppl involved .
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:15 am
by Teal'auc of the Void
Draleg wrote:you have to admit , there is a war on and its not really exiting cos nobody is bilding anything and ppl are just living of wat they make on ptt and a bit of farming.
There are exeptions but thats maybe 10% of the ppl involved .
Well, from my experiences, war is exciting only like first month, max two. Then it turns into silly farmfest 'who gets my crappy Nox/critical income first' after turn...
I may seem as inactive to the enemy side, but in fact I have massed quite some vultures... so far for my massing morale. 
Teal'auc
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:20 am
by Brdavs
Hey, making ppl cough up 50$ per week minimum is about as sweet as it gets. Well, ACing 30mil+ spys from one guy tops it, but its still pritty damn high on the "lulz" list...
But seriously.
What do both sides want? To win, I imagine. And since that is a practical imposibillity, to not loose. To not brake the winning streak. To not let go of the "image". To perhaps one day out of all the hardships resurect the glory and supremacy of old.
To take it to the wire so we dont do this again 3 months from now. To finally lay the superalliances to rest. Cos they simply hatesomeones/some alliances guts.
Take your pick, theres a variety of reasons for both sides heh.
Personally I just love to participate in a process that is making 400member superblocks non-costeffective aka obsolete. When its more hassle than gain to be part of a superblock. when traditional "the place to be" becomes "the place to avoid".
Cos imho the game would be much better off if both fua and TF simply "dropped off the face of the planet", CiA stlye (not CoP style
). But alas, some still kling to some old/new delusions of grandure.
You should prolly be asking up your empires chian what exactly the master plan is heh.
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:32 am
by Cole
What annoys me the most is that people in this (and other wars) think they can hit everyone (even someone in another war) but when they are hit back, they cry vulturing.
What makes them think they aren't themselves vultures? Afterall, not all wars are known to public! So they might hit people and be vultures before they cry vultures on the hit back hehe
As from what I heard many times, if you are hit, it's not so bad, wouldn't you want outsiders hit you rather than enemies?
Or means also, enemies are doing bad job.
As long as it's not taking advantage of no defense status (turn farming from outsiders etc) it's ok.
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:37 am
by Draleg
Brdavs wrote:You should prolly be asking up your empires chian what exactly the master plan is heh.
Thats just it , i dont want to know the alliance vision on this i want the personal opinion of the players , the ppl that actually do the footwork.
oh , and there is nothing like a vulture , only an opertunist.
I farm out of the war so why not let them farm in the war , i'm still free to start a war if i want to as retaliation .
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:47 am
by Donovan5
Draleg wrote:oh , and there is nothing like a vulture , only an opertunist.
I farm out of the war so why not let them farm in the war , i'm still free to start a war if i want to as retaliation .
Agreed. Not my fault if I can't defend my naq...
As to the rest of it, I'll have to think on it and get back to you
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:58 am
by Brdavs
Draleg wrote:Brdavs wrote:You should prolly be asking up your empires chian what exactly the master plan is heh.
Thats just it , i dont want to know the alliance vision on this i want the personal opinion of the players , the ppl that actually do the footwork.
That`s mutinous talk mr.Christian!
But yea, I get it heh.
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:08 am
by Draleg
mutinous
Adjective
1. openly rebellious
2. characteristic or indicative of mutiny
Hmm , guess i wil never be a drone , i think ppl who know me already know i dont blindly follow orders i always need to play devils advocat , but then again some ppl know i am VERRY loyal , i just have a verry good ability to see all sides of a problem , tho i dont always admit to it
Re: Draleg vs the server vieuwpoint
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:44 am
by GeneralChaos
Well there are several new types of war that admin has coded and launched are they being used, hell no there not, because some people would rather farm 2bill naq every 30 mins, the worst thing about the current war is, you get the ones that will not build a dam thing, but will mass anything thats built, and mouth off all day long on the forums, i did this i did that, after i rebuild my def 3 times and got it massed by people with nothing to mass, i gave up rebuilding, the fun has to go 2 ways.
When this current war sorry farm fest ends, im sure after a few weeks of rebuilding the new war systems will get used......