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there are some aspects of ascended I like and other aspects I dislike. For the most part though I tend to enjoy ascended as it a very easy in a sense, doesnt require as much time or commitment to achive a good account. Their are others that do as well and I am sure they will pop up soon and share their opinions.

I've always liked ascention compared to main. You can have more fun because after a couple of months (depending on you levels) the growth allows you to compete with a fair proportion of the server. You can only really be stopped by running out of turns but if you drop rank low enough you can still get 625 per day.

Unfortunately that same growth has killed the game. Nobody has to work hard to do anything. Before it was a closed shop with a couple of alliances terrorising the place. Now the "to hell with it, lets farm the crap out of the server" mentality rules. Good if you don't value your main accounnt, not so if you just want to mind your own business

I love it. No turn trading and no ppt. As Fezic would say, "Skill against skill alone." As fate would have it the man in black was a Pirate, and the giant fell!

I like it.
The limit on turns is a real big plus in the scheme of things.
Just needs raid to be brought back so we can really do some damage to people.

Ascention was at one time the way a game should be, but now due to certain attacks like assasination being way over powered, the CER cap making sure that snipers rule the game, and deascention being a complete and total joke, its just not what it use to be.

@ Freman,,,, ranked in my top ten favorite movies of all time.

@ Albel,,,,, wait till someone who doesnt even play, or even care to play, tears your account apart every 3 days or so for basicly no reason and there is nothing you can do against them, nothing. They grow with no restriction and you can never outpace them or get the 1/5th rule in your favor, they have no main account at all, or one thats completely abandoned, all the while they are pulling a 130% rank mod versus your 70% rank mod. Its real nice to see someone with less people in their entire population then you had in defense alone walk in and take out 94% of both your ATT and DEF before you phase. With you losing 10 to 1 or better, and them growing 5 to 10 times faster then you.

I'm sure someone will demonstrate if you want.

Fallstar wrote:I like it.
The limit on turns is a real big plus in the scheme of things.
Just needs raid to be brought back so we can really do some damage to people.

That is a bad idea...
Ascended used to be an epic fail, now it'sgood, but people complain. It's just because they were on the "safe side" before ascended gets modified and now feel how it is to get it like others were.

Lore wrote:Ascention was at one time the way a game should be, but now due to certain attacks like assasination being way over powered, the CER cap making sure that snipers rule the game, and deascention being a complete and total joke, its just not what it use to be.

@ Freman,,,, ranked in my top ten favorite movies of all time.

@ Albel,,,,, wait till someone who doesnt even play, or even care to play, tears your account apart every 3 days or so for basicly no reason and there is nothing you can do against them, nothing. They grow with no restriction and you can never outpace them or get the 1/5th rule in your favor, they have no main account at all, or one thats completely abandoned, all the while they are pulling a 130% rank mod versus your 70% rank mod. Its real nice to see someone with less people in their entire population then you had in defense alone walk in and take out 94% of both your ATT and DEF before you phase. With you losing 10 to 1 or better, and them growing 5 to 10 times faster then you.

I'm sure someone will demonstrate if you want.

And before there was raiding and it was exactly as worse, difference being your enemy gained more than "fun" from doing it...

LA,,,, I was on the receiving end in those days


But I'll ask you as I've asked so many others, who would never really comment.

If everyone playing now, had played from the biginning with the same zest and vigor,,,,,,, would ascended have ever gotten to the state it was in?

I'll not say yes or no, but I will say I don't think so. Limited AT wouldn't have allowed it. The fact such a small amount of players played it was the problem. If everyone active now had banded together on ascended, LOL, well you get my point.

Lore wrote:LA,,,, I was on the receiving end in those days


But I'll ask you as I've asked so many others, who would never really comment.

If everyone playing now, had played from the biginning with the same zest and vigor,,,,,,, would ascended have ever gotten to the state it was in?

I'll not say yes or no, but I will say I don't think so. Limited AT wouldn't have allowed it. The fact such a small amount of players played it was the problem. If everyone active now had banded together on ascended, LOL, well you get my point.

You were in DDE if I'm not mistaken, so we both know, Grand Alliance= mutual protection + "alone we are grand together we are mighty" blah blah. Anyway if I'm not mistaken DDE were not really good at those times in ascended. They became strong when the updates came. Only DD, The Order and Omega were powerful at those times there.
Destroy any person who played with "zest and vigor", the second they grew up on a "dangerous level", teaming up on that person, by raiding them to hell and destroying them totally, done by "top players". There was already strong people who were top page with excellent stats, but well, they didn't last long, when the "big brother" decided it was enough, they were destroyed totally. Policy of "mass any not GA on top page on main and ascended".
That answers your point about small amount playing it. It wasn't worth, because those already there would make sure you don't grow. Then raiding disappeared and very same people who were "protected" started to moan because now, they would be vulnerable as well, but on a different way. The "threats" now couldn't be stopped unlike in past. And now, they could mass the big stat builders on top.
Why do you think in CoPs vs CIA so many were on vac on CIA side? Were they weak players who only ascended quick to LG? No. Not all were, but they were sat on already before war even started, to make sure they would never become "threats".

LegendaryApophis wrote:

Lore wrote:LA,,,, I was on the receiving end in those days


But I'll ask you as I've asked so many others, who would never really comment.

If everyone playing now, had played from the biginning with the same zest and vigor,,,,,,, would ascended have ever gotten to the state it was in?

I'll not say yes or no, but I will say I don't think so. Limited AT wouldn't have allowed it. The fact such a small amount of players played it was the problem. If everyone active now had banded together on ascended, LOL, well you get my point.

You were in DDE if I'm not mistaken, so we both know, Grand Alliance= mutual protection + "alone we are grand together we are mighty" blah blah. Anyway if I'm not mistaken DDE were not really good at those times in ascended. They became strong when the updates came. Only DD, The Order and Omega were powerful at those times there.
Destroy any person who played with "zest and vigor", the second they grew up on a "dangerous level", teaming up on that person, by raiding them to hell and destroying them totally, done by "top players". There was already strong people who were top page with excellent stats, but well, they didn't last long, when the "big brother" decided it was enough, they were destroyed totally. Policy of "mass any not GA on top page on main and ascended".
That answers your point about small amount playing it. It wasn't worth, because those already there would make sure you don't grow. Then raiding disappeared and very same people who were "protected" started to moan because now, they would be vulnerable as well, but on a different way. The "threats" now couldn't be stopped unlike in past. And now, they could mass the big stat builders on top.
Why do you think in CoPs vs CIA so many were on vac on CIA side? Were they weak players who only ascended quick to LG? No. Not all were, but they were sat on already before war even started, to make sure they would never become "threats".

Quick history lesson for you mate, I was in Minority under the leadership of Nuto Vixen and Evil Homer when the war against the GA kicked off. So mate I had no "protection" of any kind, and guess what, I got raided and farmed just like everyone else.

But nice to see you, as so many others have done, simply side step the question and let it pass by without actualy considering it or even attempting to answer it.

and FTR, I'm not argueing or disagreeing with you, I just asked a simple question, and there is no right or wrong answer, just your opinion.

And as for the "threats that couldn't be stopped". They were there before, and had the exact same power they have now. Nothing stopped them from raiding 1 "powerhouse" account and then massing/farming them all with the raided planets, well nothing other then their own inactivity.

I do enjoy the Ascended Server to, kinda confusing when I was new to the game, I'm planning to create a blog to help people to understand it, since what I have heard, a lot of people do not understand it, nor a lot of people play it. That's basically the only reason why I do not like the Ascended Wars. I'm doing a blog for the Main Server of StarGateWars right now.

Lore wrote:

LegendaryApophis wrote:

Lore wrote:LA,,,, I was on the receiving end in those days


But I'll ask you as I've asked so many others, who would never really comment.

If everyone playing now, had played from the biginning with the same zest and vigor,,,,,,, would ascended have ever gotten to the state it was in?

I'll not say yes or no, but I will say I don't think so. Limited AT wouldn't have allowed it. The fact such a small amount of players played it was the problem. If everyone active now had banded together on ascended, LOL, well you get my point.

You were in DDE if I'm not mistaken, so we both know, Grand Alliance= mutual protection + "alone we are grand together we are mighty" blah blah. Anyway if I'm not mistaken DDE were not really good at those times in ascended. They became strong when the updates came. Only DD, The Order and Omega were powerful at those times there.
Destroy any person who played with "zest and vigor", the second they grew up on a "dangerous level", teaming up on that person, by raiding them to hell and destroying them totally, done by "top players". There was already strong people who were top page with excellent stats, but well, they didn't last long, when the "big brother" decided it was enough, they were destroyed totally. Policy of "mass any not GA on top page on main and ascended".
That answers your point about small amount playing it. It wasn't worth, because those already there would make sure you don't grow. Then raiding disappeared and very same people who were "protected" started to moan because now, they would be vulnerable as well, but on a different way. The "threats" now couldn't be stopped unlike in past. And now, they could mass the big stat builders on top.
Why do you think in CoPs vs CIA so many were on vac on CIA side? Were they weak players who only ascended quick to LG? No. Not all were, but they were sat on already before war even started, to make sure they would never become "threats".

Quick history lesson for you mate, I was in Minority under the leadership of Nuto Vixen and Evil Homer when the war against the GA kicked off. So mate I had no "protection" of any kind, and guess what, I got raided and farmed just like everyone else.

But nice to see you, as so many others have done, simply side step the question and let it pass by without actualy considering it or even attempting to answer it.

and FTR, I'm not argueing or disagreeing with you, I just asked a simple question, and there is no right or wrong answer, just your opinion.

And as for the "threats that couldn't be stopped". They were there before, and had the exact same power they have now. Nothing stopped them from raiding 1 "powerhouse" account and then massing/farming them all with the raided planets, well nothing other then their own inactivity.

I answered your question.
People like me were active and tried, but knew if we tried to get "big", we would get raided and fall down back to what we used to be. So, it's like first strike on alliance wars, those who came in group before had advantage to others...UNTIL that crap raid function got the hell out. Then, it really shown who was good at it when it disappeared!!

LegendaryApophis wrote:I answered your question.
People like me were active and tried, but knew if we tried to get "big", we would get raided and fall down back to what we used to be. So, it's like first strike on alliance wars, those who came in group before had advantage to others...UNTIL that crap raid function got the hell out. Then, it really shown who was good at it when it disappeared!!

No, you explained your situation, and your feelings concerning ascended. You have still not hinted towards the bigger picture of ascention. It still has too many major and fundamental flaws,,, and honestly has no reason to be played. Deascention is a joke, and there is no way to protect yourself in any way, shape, or form, OTHER then completely untraining. Is sitting statless, and DMing anything anyone builds really what ascention is all about?

If so, maybe it is me looking at it all wrong. IDK, JMO